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Cake day: June 13th, 2024

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  • Can framework physically be upgraded? Yes. Is that practical, realistic, or something the makes sense for a typical user to actually do (beyond RAM and hard drives, which is common to be able to replace on most laptops already)? No. See all the reasons I’ve already covered. To market the product based on that like it is something great that a user will expect to do and why they should buy it, is pretty scammy behavior, especially when the laptop is priced at a premium and this is justified by these impractical features.

    Ir16 is as repairable and as easy as framework to replace/upgrade typical components as one should expect for a laptop, like RAM, hard drives, and network card. You remove 9 screws, the bottom panel comes right off, and there is access to those components. I wouldn’t expect to easily replace other parts of it or the entire mainboard, but again, no one is practically going to be doing that with framework either anyway.

    an unrelated and fairly ignorant take

    It’s actually related (given all of the comments suggesting framework and parroting scam marketting points), and not ignorant, just realistic. People often want to defend their purchase after they’ve been duped.




  • Granblue Relink is just about closing that top 100 and has about 650 players right now. That’s not on Deck, that’s across all of Steam.

    So a completely different measure than what is used for ranking Great on Steam Deck games…? 🤦 Comparison to concurrent users just isn’t valid because Great on Steam Deck ranking aren’t measured by concurrent users…

    it’s that mouse-first games are quite unpopular

    Evidence needed. Also, did you purposely leave out the fact that Civ VII is literally #2 trending on the Deck right now because it proves you argument wrong or…?

    I don’t mind being wrong that much

    That’s certainly convenient for you lol


  • I mean… for any game in the top 500 on Steam Deck… That sure would be one hell of a birthday party. You must have no concept of how big of a number 4 million is and how many people are playing these games on Deck…

    Do you just not know what a radial menu is? The grid layout fits as many things as you configure it to, and the layout and arrangement of squares are fully configurable, which can be more useful and contextual than a radial menu… you should really watch that video I linked above, especially if you have time to spend counting games in the steam list lmao

    a grid layout actually fits fewer things than a radial menu

    Area scales faster than perimeter/circumference. You are literally, mathematically, incorrect. 36 buttons in a grid would still be readable and usable, with only 6 buttons per row, while 36 slices of a circle would be an unreadable squished mess with 9 items in each quadrant… That radial menu would likely need to be the size of the screen

    And for the record, its not really a surprise or supportive of your argument that controller-first games are more popular, given that the Steam Deck also works great for controller-first games… like… duh?? That doesn’t prove the point you think it does


  • Chords, button combos and controller layers can be combined into surprisingly complex setups.

    Ah yes, complex and hard-to-remember controller mappings, so much easier than: put thumb on pad -> make selection. Great point lmao. No one is saying that you can’t rig up solutions for controller, just that they are difficult to use and less payable than just using the touchpad. This very thing is probably what is driving you away from playing these games on Deck back to your computer or keyboard-lapboard gadget thing.

    Probably too complex, unless you like playing Steam Input more than you like playing your game, but definitely very capable of doing as much as the left pad.

    I agree 100%

    Which, by the way, can be mapped to a radial menu and that’s about it

    You underestimate how powerful Steam Input is, weirdly. Lmao

    what RTSs do you play on the Deck or the Steam Controller?

    Manor Lords. Total War games are great too. Civilization is turn based but still the same input mechanics and is much better on the TV due to the touchpads. Management games have all the same input mechanics as RTS but different gameplay, the obvious example is Rimworld, but also things like Zoo Tycoon and Cities: Skylines. All of these are totally playable, and several I, personally, prefer on the couch

    “don’t force games that aren’t fun on a controller to be on a controller”

    except they are fun and 100% playable, thanks to the touchpads. This is just what we actually disagree on, and MANY people agree with me here and use the Steam Deck to play these games, it isn’t some obscure or niche opinion, and its a major discriminator between the Steam Deck and other handhelds that are lacking in these input features