It’s immutable Fedora.

Yes, it helps users not to accidentally break stuff. That’s a benefit for regular users, not a downside.

Immutability is something that not even regular Fedora uses, because it causes weirdness and potential trouble if you don’t just use it as a wrapper for flatpak.

Even regular Fedora is a better alternative to (K)Ubuntu because of all that unsupported software in Ubuntu’s Universe repository. All software in Fedora is supported, not just a cherrypicked subset.

Apart from if they are going to use their PC for anything else than gaming.

Why would Bazzite be worse for everything else than gaming? It’s literally just a Fedora variant with some quality of life stuff preinstalled. All the stuff that (K)Ubuntu requires jumping through hoops (most notably Flatpak) is preinstalled and the entire software repository is officially supported unlike Universe in Ubuntu (KDE software is in Universe, hence why the backports PPA is pretty much mandatory).

The average casual gamer will have no issues with Ubuntu.

Average casual gamer will have even fewer than “no” issues with Bazzite. There is no reason why (K)Ubuntu is preferable these days.

These hoops don’t matter for beginners. They are usually fine with what Ubuntu provides, or more to the point, don’t even know what they might be missing.

This is /c/linux_gaming. Recommending a distribution with outdated Mesa drivers is not in their interest, whether they know what they’re missing out or not. That’s among several reasons why Ubuntu in general is not a good recommendation for gamers.

Why do people still pre-order games before release?

In case of indie games to give the developer funding.

in Java

Again?

Very slightly less of a usability nightmare, especially for beginners who cannot be expected to know this stuff, especially when actually user friendly distributions take these troubles off the user’s hands.

You can add Flathub in Discover without using terminal

Still not user friendly. Bazzite (and others) has this out of the box.

First enable Flatpak, then add the Flathub repository, and then add a few PPAs here and there just is not user friendly at all, Terminal or not. This is the Linux Gaming community. The likelihood that people here want the emulators that get published on Flathub because of Steam Deck is high.

Backports aren’t necessary, but it’s nice to have the option if you later decide you want something newer

They are necessary because of Canonical’s insane demands for version number freezes. Unpaid volunteers often don’t have the resources to cherry pick and backport individual bug fixes. When the Kubuntu maintainers were blogging more frequently, “add our PPA to get bugfix xyz” was a recurring line.

*buntu are mainly beginner distros.

They aren’t. Canonical enshittifies Ubuntu and the official flavors more and more. The hoops one needs to jump through (like OP’s PPA command because Canonical forbids proper updates) are not user friendly.

Steam Survey shows how Ubuntu’s relevance for home users continues to shrink and alternatives like Bazzite continue to grow.

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports

Fiddle with the Terminal to add a PPA (and also Flatpak) just screams usability.

As a text editor (which is different from an IDE, obviously) just use KWrite or GEDIT (or whatever Gnome uses these days).

Debian GNU/kFreeBSD was definitively a thing.

Just get the older APK form one of the mirror sites.

It’s a PR stunt if 99% AI is fine.

So 99% AI is OK if the last 1% was made by non-AI, a real dog bark or so.

using their proprietary launcher

https://launcher.hytale.com/builds/release/linux/amd64/hytale-launcher-latest.flatpak

Not tried it but it’s a Flatpak. I’d say it’s a positive.

My frustration is primarily with idiots who can’t explain themselves well while thinking they know better

Somewhat understandable but you really should edit your comments and get rid of the expletives. You went hard really fast and there are different ways to get your point across.

Why would I? My argument is that their iGPUs are a better pick for notebooks.

That’s the old dGPU.

The 16" dGPU “upgrade” is Nvidia shit.