Oh, and they always disagree with Netanyahu.

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    Neo nazis were absolutely not the only people critisizing Isreal in the past. Isreal just called everyone that regardless, and it seems like it worked. The earliest opposition to Zionism by necessity were Jews because that community is where those original discussions happened.

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      yeah, i can only offer my perspective, which is austrian - and it seems that those discussions were kept away from my surroundings; in our politics right-wing politicians surrounding the FPÖ were the only ones who criticized jews in a public way, and they did it because they are literally populist antisemites, rising from what the denazification didn’t eradicate. I myself became aware of the apartheid only a few years back, and like i said, i wasn’t so sure if it wasn’t facebook-style propaganda.

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      The earliest opposition to Zionism by necessity were Jews because that community is where those original discussions happened.

      And Jews still are the biggest critics of Zionism! There is nothing inevitable about Zionism becoming the expression of Jewish self-identity. Zionism became the dominant model for Jewish self-conception because the other models, such as Bundist Doikayt, were exterminated in the Holocaust. In that sense, Jews rediscovering extra-Zionist Jewishnesses is a reaffirmation of the breadth of the Jewish experience that was stolen by the Nazis!

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      Yeah, but they were the ones who made people believe that “Zionism” was a conspiracy theory of 'Jews wanting to exterminate the Goyim" (!).