• Bad@jlai.lu
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    1 day ago

    Russian and American militaries, with all their overwhelming might and superiority, lost their wars against dirt farmers living in caves

    The US sent billions to the Talibans vs the USSR, it was a proxy war.

    Various sources (allegedly saudis and pakistan) sent billions to the Talibans and Al-Quaeda vs the US, it was another proxy war. On top of that they had a lot of leftover US weapons from the previous war.

    They were not fighting proles with guns, they were fighting an actual military with military grade weapons.

    Don’t move goalposts, we’re talking about resisting the tyranny of the state here, demonstrators vs military.

    PS: Calling them “dirt farmers living in caves” is straight up racist, try not to do that. Both Talibans and Al-Quaeda had central command, a very organized military, courts, intelligence units, shadow governments, taxation systems, bureaucracy… you’re just repeating the imperialist propaganda the USA uses to justify their defeat.

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      8 hours ago

      The high explosives were helping the Tainan a lot too. IEDs both killed and fucked-with the US military in ways an even a thousand ARs never could. And cheap drones weren’t even a thing yet back then.

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      1 day ago

      If it turns into a shooting war between the US military and its own civilian populace, apart from the multitude of other unimaginable horrors, you would undoubtedly see countries trying to stoke the flames and make the conflict more involved and expensive for the United States. Hell, I’m pretty well convinced that it’s happening right now; if you were China or Russia or any other hostile foreign actor, you would much rather the United States destroy itself from within than try to confront us directly.

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        24 hours ago

        Modern day “people vs state” uprising are over in a matter of days.

        It would not last long enough for any external support to stoke any flames.

        Unless it turns into an actual civil war, military vs military instead of civilian vs military. Sure, then you’d have lots of foreign involvement, but civilians having guns would barely affect the eventual outcome if at all. Civilians vs military these days is hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby tier, in the USA it’d be even more asymmetrical and brutal given the state of your military.

        Ask the survivors of the MOVE bombing how guns would have helped them, now add 40 years of military industrial complex and technological progress to the equation. You’ll get a mental picture of reality.