Yeah, the guy that lead the most successful iteration of communism isnt a real communist. Only people debating on the internet are true communists.
Your criteria for communism is essentially “if they did bad things, then it wasn’t real communism”. Leftists can learn a lot from The Soviet Union, mistakes and all. Dismissing entire nations that actually tried communism because you’re scared you’ll have to justify everything they did is silly.
Communism in the Marxist sense isn’t about abolishing hierarchies. When they say they want a stateless society, there will still be oppression but executed by workers which is much besser. Source: read Das Kapital or something. I’m not a Marxist, what do I know
And shitty communists go around purging other communists in kangaroo courts and show trials.
Shitty communists impose cults of personality and destroy workers democracy.
Shitty communists also refuse to learn from a century of shitty communism and still cling to old categories as if they have any meaning today. I mean you can stan Robespierre all you like but in the end of the day, the 1871 Commune was never going to be run by 1789 Jacobins much less fucking bonapartists.
The final goal of communism is a worldwide, stateless, classless, moneyless society.
This has obviously never been achieved, but the socialist and communist factions that use Marxism Leninism to work toward this goal are still nonetheless communist.
Stalin’s purge included the murder a lot of the original bolshevik revolutionaries.
I’m ofc assuming Stalin doesn’t count as a communist… Hopefully.
Edit to add: fuck nazis
Yeah, the guy that lead the most successful iteration of communism isnt a real communist. Only people debating on the internet are true communists.
Your criteria for communism is essentially “if they did bad things, then it wasn’t real communism”. Leftists can learn a lot from The Soviet Union, mistakes and all. Dismissing entire nations that actually tried communism because you’re scared you’ll have to justify everything they did is silly.
Can a nation be considered to have achieved communism when it still has a hierarchy?
The Soviet Union didn’t even claim to have achieved socialism. Their ideology was that they were supposedly constantly working towards that.
Communism in the Marxist sense isn’t about abolishing hierarchies. When they say they want a stateless society, there will still be oppression but executed by workers which is much besser. Source: read Das Kapital or something. I’m not a Marxist, what do I know
Communists are not people that practice communism (not possible yet), they are people trying to achieve communism as an end goal.
And shitty communists go around purging other communists in kangaroo courts and show trials.
Shitty communists impose cults of personality and destroy workers democracy.
Shitty communists also refuse to learn from a century of shitty communism and still cling to old categories as if they have any meaning today. I mean you can stan Robespierre all you like but in the end of the day, the 1871 Commune was never going to be run by 1789 Jacobins much less fucking bonapartists.
The way you communicate is insufferable lol.
Well, your toothbrush is gross and your toes smell like canola oil.
The final goal of communism is a worldwide, stateless, classless, moneyless society.
This has obviously never been achieved, but the socialist and communist factions that use Marxism Leninism to work toward this goal are still nonetheless communist.