https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/reality-check-eu-council-chat-control-vote-is-not-a-retreat-but-a-green-light-for-indiscriminate-mass-surveillance-and-the-end-of-right-to-communicate-anonymously/

By “shared” servers I mean hosters like https://tchncs.de/en/ who offer a bunch of services (they do a great job at it by the way) including Matrix and Lemmy.

I’m thinking of moving my close family to a Matrix chat over there, but I guess long term they might have to implement the ChatControl scanning.

This whole thing is just stupid.

  • whoever loves Digit 🇵🇸🇺🇸🏴‍☠️@piefed.social
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    I don’t quite get what you’re asking. You can use any chat app that works, just don’t expect privacy with current tech unless you’re a pair of trustworthy cryptography experts using secure devices at both ends. Near future tech should make it more possible for regular everyday tech users to achieve what an expert could do today

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      that’s nonsense.

      You can use any chat app that works, just don’t expect privacy

      that was the fucking point, that they are making it illegal to change this for the better

      unless you’re a pair of trustworthy cryptography experts using secure devices at both ends. Near future tech should make it more possible for regular everyday tech users to achieve what an expert could do today

      you don’t have to be an expert for it today, but in the near future easy private tech will be illegal so that you will have to be an expert on it.

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      I want to avoid messaging apps that will be scanned. Seems likely that Signal will be part of it.

      In the risk analysis, providers must check whether their services can be misused for the dissemination of abuse material or for contacting children. There are to be three categories for this: high, medium, and low risk. Providers in the highest category could be obliged to participate in the development of risk mitigation technologies.

      We can anticipate Signal and co. will be part of the high risk category and assume the risk mitigation tech will be aimed towards breaking encryption. Especially since this new agency will be interfacing with Europol. I don’t see this as a win or even a draw.

      https://feddit.org/comment/10169945

      you’re a pair of trustworthy cryptography experts using secure devices at both ends.

      As a lot of people here, I’m usually the IT/tech reference person in my family, so if I suggest to move to DeltaChat or Matrix, I’ll just take their devices, set it up and we’ll use that from now.

      I have been looking at a real WhatsApp alternative, this was the last push I needed.