Western perception of “Social credit” largely propaganda btw and if you believe it isnt then you got manipulated.

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    11 hours ago

    This thought-terminating cliche is getting so tired. You may as well just say “let’s just agree to disagree”.

    It’s telling that this cliche is most often applied when western whataboutism is correctly called out, and all it does is serve to legitimize the act of manufacturing consent against China.

    USA invents credit score way back in the 50s

    credit score is immediately used to pull off the most calculatingly misogynistic, racist, and classist financial enforcement in modern history.

    china implements a technically similar system that aims not to control working people’s financial agency, but to strengthen public trust.

    the west immediately spins up the presses and releases dozens of hit pieces a year that manufacture consent against China by portraying the Chinese social credit system as an orwellian nightmare that will rip a child out of their parent’s home if the household spends too much time on videos games.

    leftists identify this whataboutism and correctly call it out

    liberals drop one of their various thought-terminating cliches to (not so) subtly bolster the western narrative - thus manufacturing consent against China.

    You’ve been effortlessly oriented by the State Department and its various propaganda apparatus.

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      8 hours ago

      If you believe China’s social credit system is a good way to “strengthen public trust” then I want to know how you feel about people like Xu Xiaodong, whose social credit was destroyed for exposing fake martial artists and refusing to apologize to them.

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      9 hours ago

      How is it thought terminating to consider two different things bad at the same time?

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      11 hours ago

      Brother i don’t want to live in a country that scores my social media nor one that scores my credit. I have the right to not want either of those things

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        11 hours ago

        I’m still going to engage with you despite you not engaging with any part of my comment…

        i don’t want to live in a country that scores [me]. I have the right to not want [that].

        You sure do have that right. Your right to not want that is just dandy. However, Chinese people, by and large, do support their implementation of the social credit system. The Chinese people are developing their vision of socialism. For you to personally not like certain features of Chinese socialism is fine and dandy. But to condemn the Chinese for some aspect of their development of socialism that enjoys high support is chauvinistic of you.

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          10 hours ago

          Since when does having a “good behaviour score” have anything to do with socialism? Seriously wtf is this revisionism? It’s gotten so bad that so called “Marxists” accept any nonsense as long as it has a hammer and sickle on its flag.

          What is wrong with you people? Does anyone even read anymore?

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      You’ve been effortlessly oriented by the State Department and its various propaganda apparatus.

      Can you explain to me, how I’m propagandized by a foreign government when I’m not cheering on the policies of their opponent?

      I’m not taking any sides on this conflict, because it’s not my conflict. I’m a socialist… Let me assure you that my fundamental critique of the chinese state apparatus doesn’t really align too much with the US state propaganda.