The main target of this meme isn’t Obama , but rather liberal hypocrisy. Double tapping is just the latest example of it, but while Obama is mostly a non-issue (though he still has influence within liberal circles and should be remembered for the monster he is) this double standard is still relevant because attacking the right for doing awful shit is one way liberals gain political capital to use for their own awful shit.
Besides, this is a post on c/leftymemes, not a dissertation, so I’m not sure why it should be “helpful.”
Anybody from any political standing could say the exact same thing that you just said but compare any other president within the last 100 years about any other topic and their point would still make sense. It’s unhelpful because it doesn’t further the conversation. All it does is point fingers and pit people against each other which is exactly what this comment section has turned into. And whether it was done intentionally or unintentionally, it’s basically ragebait. Now we are all arguing in the comments about things in the past that we can’t change and what peoples opinions were 15 years ago and why that has anything to do with people that are dying today.
All it does is point fingers and pit people against each other
leftists are against liberals to start with, this post didn’t do anything to alter that. why are you complaining leftists are against a right-wing party in the first place?
I just find it silly to talk about rising up, bringing everyone together, defending the weak, and removing those in power while treating everyone that disagrees with you like garbage. At best with that attitude you’d get a revolution of a hundred thousand people if you are lucky because you pissed everyone else off. I’ve never met anyone that has changed their mind because someone insulted them. In fact it’s usually to opposite as it usually pushes them further away.
Pointing out hypocrisy is perfectly reasonable, but if you can’t even recognize your own hypocrisies in the process you’re just an asshole. And at this point I’m moreso talking about the comments under this post as I don’t find the post that innacurate, just misleading, which is what I was trying to point out. But everyone came out the gate ready to argue over the smallest details. I get it, there are definitely specific people that deserve all the criticism and hate that they get like those that flip flop when it benefits them. But it’s pretty ridiculous to hear about “unity” while also posting memes that generalize an entire group of people based on vibes and not actually talking to the individual. That’s, for the most part, how we ended up where we are today and it’s counterproductive.
liberalism is a right-wing ideology, it has no room for leftist ideals. that unity you speak of refers to leftist unity. it never included liberals, who are not our allies, never will be, and who will resist every single one of our efforts as much as they can until we force them with civil disobedience or violence.
At best with that attitude you’d get a revolution of a hundred thousand people if you are lucky because you pissed everyone else off.
who do you think it is leftists are going to be rebelling against? did you honestly think it was just going to be republicans, and not also the democrats who work hand-in-hand with them to enact fascist policies? if it ever comes down to an armed uprising, we’re also going to be sticking liberal politicians against the wall when things are done. there’s no uniting with the people working with actual fucking nazis to kill us. the only thing you do with nazi collaborators is shoot them.
I’m not disagreeing with you about what a liberal is. Liberal politicians are garbage and are just as bad as the rest of them and are paid off by zionists. What I’m more interested in is that you seem to be talking about the politicians while I’m talking about the general population. The every day people that aren’t leftists. It just seems counterproductive to make enemies of literally everyone else. When I say you’d only have about a hundred thousand people I meant against the the ideals of everyone else, not just the politcians and their disgusting behavior. Like, why are you picking a fight with me when I agree with the majority of what you are talking about?
Anybody from any political standing could say the exact same thing that you just said but compare any other president within the last 100 years about any other topic and their point would still make sense.
Feel free to do so, then.
It’s unhelpful because it doesn’t further the conversation.
It does, because there’s a clear lesson to be learned from liberal flipflopping regarding the morality (or I suppose tolerability would be a better word) of whatever the evil thing du jour is: Just because liberals situationally agree with you, it doesn’t make them any less anti-worker. Leftists helping liberals beat a common enemy and then getting the boot after they stop being useful is a tale as old as time, so it’s important to remember what these people actually stand for. This is why so-called “unity” with liberals is such a ridiculous idea.
The main target of this meme isn’t Obama , but rather liberal hypocrisy. Double tapping is just the latest example of it, but while Obama is mostly a non-issue (though he still has influence within liberal circles and should be remembered for the monster he is) this double standard is still relevant because attacking the right for doing awful shit is one way liberals gain political capital to use for their own awful shit.
Besides, this is a post on c/leftymemes, not a dissertation, so I’m not sure why it should be “helpful.”
Anybody from any political standing could say the exact same thing that you just said but compare any other president within the last 100 years about any other topic and their point would still make sense. It’s unhelpful because it doesn’t further the conversation. All it does is point fingers and pit people against each other which is exactly what this comment section has turned into. And whether it was done intentionally or unintentionally, it’s basically ragebait. Now we are all arguing in the comments about things in the past that we can’t change and what peoples opinions were 15 years ago and why that has anything to do with people that are dying today.
leftists are against liberals to start with, this post didn’t do anything to alter that. why are you complaining leftists are against a right-wing party in the first place?
I just find it silly to talk about rising up, bringing everyone together, defending the weak, and removing those in power while treating everyone that disagrees with you like garbage. At best with that attitude you’d get a revolution of a hundred thousand people if you are lucky because you pissed everyone else off. I’ve never met anyone that has changed their mind because someone insulted them. In fact it’s usually to opposite as it usually pushes them further away.
Pointing out hypocrisy is perfectly reasonable, but if you can’t even recognize your own hypocrisies in the process you’re just an asshole. And at this point I’m moreso talking about the comments under this post as I don’t find the post that innacurate, just misleading, which is what I was trying to point out. But everyone came out the gate ready to argue over the smallest details. I get it, there are definitely specific people that deserve all the criticism and hate that they get like those that flip flop when it benefits them. But it’s pretty ridiculous to hear about “unity” while also posting memes that generalize an entire group of people based on vibes and not actually talking to the individual. That’s, for the most part, how we ended up where we are today and it’s counterproductive.
liberalism is a right-wing ideology, it has no room for leftist ideals. that unity you speak of refers to leftist unity. it never included liberals, who are not our allies, never will be, and who will resist every single one of our efforts as much as they can until we force them with civil disobedience or violence.
who do you think it is leftists are going to be rebelling against? did you honestly think it was just going to be republicans, and not also the democrats who work hand-in-hand with them to enact fascist policies? if it ever comes down to an armed uprising, we’re also going to be sticking liberal politicians against the wall when things are done. there’s no uniting with the people working with actual fucking nazis to kill us. the only thing you do with nazi collaborators is shoot them.
I’m not disagreeing with you about what a liberal is. Liberal politicians are garbage and are just as bad as the rest of them and are paid off by zionists. What I’m more interested in is that you seem to be talking about the politicians while I’m talking about the general population. The every day people that aren’t leftists. It just seems counterproductive to make enemies of literally everyone else. When I say you’d only have about a hundred thousand people I meant against the the ideals of everyone else, not just the politcians and their disgusting behavior. Like, why are you picking a fight with me when I agree with the majority of what you are talking about?
Feel free to do so, then.
It does, because there’s a clear lesson to be learned from liberal flipflopping regarding the morality (or I suppose tolerability would be a better word) of whatever the evil thing du jour is: Just because liberals situationally agree with you, it doesn’t make them any less anti-worker. Leftists helping liberals beat a common enemy and then getting the boot after they stop being useful is a tale as old as time, so it’s important to remember what these people actually stand for. This is why so-called “unity” with liberals is such a ridiculous idea.