I thought we could easily migrate accounts between Fediverse instances and that that was a core feature of ActivityPub for preventing a single instance from dominating and effectively centralizing the Fediverse?
Hmm, only Mastodon is mentioned for this feature in the ActivutyPub spec… I’m not sure if it’s the only service that has implemented this fully or if it’s just the example used.
That’s ashame, because account mobility is the most important tool for healthy decentralization. The reason Facebook or Twitter can “get away with” implementing such shitty policies and abusing their users is because the users are locked in, with a high cost to switching platforms.
The cost is highest for accounts like small businesses that live and die by social media marketing, once they have an established presence and successfully built a following on a platform, it is very risky for them to give that up and start over on a new one.
I imagine Rimu would need to work with Lemmy in order to bring in that kind of migration for accounts where the post-history is completely redirected, but I doubt that’s gunna happen.
Long story short: migrating subscriptions and blocks are enough for the Threadiverse as your posts belong more to the communities where you posted than yourself
Migrate is a strong word, more like you can copy your settings, it’s certainly not intrinsic to the standard either. Remember, your username includes your instance after all. I am not deeply versed but one of the better platforms was Mastodon and it was still limited to moving your settings and followers to your new account and setting the old one to forward. Posts weren’t reattributed or anything though.
The strength of the fediverse is how the data is duplicated and how it’s the sum of many parts, but maintaining an “identity” on the fediverse is still wobbly, some like that though, it leans into the privacy/anonymity side of things.
You can see lemmy communities on Piefed.
But you will need to make a new account on a piefed instance, same as you would moving to any other lemmy instance.
I thought we could easily migrate accounts between Fediverse instances and that that was a core feature of ActivityPub for preventing a single instance from dominating and effectively centralizing the Fediverse?
Does piefed not support account migration?
You can import your subscriptions, and communities can be migrated over - but I am unaware of an account migration function.
Hmm, only Mastodon is mentioned for this feature in the ActivutyPub spec… I’m not sure if it’s the only service that has implemented this fully or if it’s just the example used.
https://swicg.github.io/activitypub-data-portability/#move-action
That’s ashame, because account mobility is the most important tool for healthy decentralization. The reason Facebook or Twitter can “get away with” implementing such shitty policies and abusing their users is because the users are locked in, with a high cost to switching platforms.
The cost is highest for accounts like small businesses that live and die by social media marketing, once they have an established presence and successfully built a following on a platform, it is very risky for them to give that up and start over on a new one.
I imagine Rimu would need to work with Lemmy in order to bring in that kind of migration for accounts where the post-history is completely redirected, but I doubt that’s gunna happen.
He addressed it in the interview on [email protected]
Long story short: migrating subscriptions and blocks are enough for the Threadiverse as your posts belong more to the communities where you posted than yourself
Yeah, I’d argue community migration is by far a more valuable priority than account migration.
Migrate is a strong word, more like you can copy your settings, it’s certainly not intrinsic to the standard either. Remember, your username includes your instance after all. I am not deeply versed but one of the better platforms was Mastodon and it was still limited to moving your settings and followers to your new account and setting the old one to forward. Posts weren’t reattributed or anything though.
The strength of the fediverse is how the data is duplicated and how it’s the sum of many parts, but maintaining an “identity” on the fediverse is still wobbly, some like that though, it leans into the privacy/anonymity side of things.