• Postimo@lemmy.zip
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      14 hours ago

      You know how folks get around Valve speculation. I think some of the ARM stuff for the Frame made people run wild.

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      A lot of people looked at SteamOS on ARM and naturally speculated that there could potentially be a SteamOS for phones in the future.

      I think there’s a myriad of reasons that would be a bad idea but not completely out of the question.

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        The software is open source. Someone will make it, it doesn’t have to be Valve. In fact there are already projects like Winlator. This will just accelerate that

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          Creating a Linux based OS for phones is an enormous task. There are several of them around but most are barely functional from my research.

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            The problem is that contrary to x86 the stack powering Android phones isn’t made for OS portability.

            On x86 the basic concept is “There’s one OS image/distro and it runs on everything”. You can take one Debian iso and it will run on close to every x86/x64 PC out there.

            Android phones don’t work like that. Every image needs to be custom-fitted to exactly the hardware it runs on.

            That makes it hugely difficult for Linux-on-Android-phones to just work on any phone, which again makes it very difficult for the already-cash-strapped hobbyist Linux-on-phones projects that are out there to actually support all the hardware on the phones.

            If Valve would make such a thing as SteamOS on phones, it would be specific SteamOS phones, not SteamOS as a custom ROM for random phones.

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              Only if the phone hardware is closed and locked. If not for chip manufacturer patents, stock Debian would run no problem on every new phone a week or two after it hit the shelves (if not sooner, like when friendly vendors send early hardware out to developers).
              Instead, every revision of every model phone has a bunch of unique black-box bullshit that must be reverse-engineered, all of which expressly exists to keep you from using your hardware the way you want.

              You know all of this.
              The point (that you made, that) I want to emphasize is: Valve is a hardware manufacturer now.
              And I would absolutely buy an AARCH64 Steam Deck that could replace my Android.

          • the_q@lemmy.zip
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            12 hours ago

            None of them have loads of money backing them. Valve has loads of money.

        • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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          The real problem is the hardware. Somebody needs to make a handset that has any chance of actually working out of an SoC that the manufacturer isn’t actively trying to stop people from using for anything other than mass mind rape. Once you’ve got that made, some neckbeard will have Debian running on it by sundown.