“Tankie” is just a pejorative for those who support socialism in the real world. It’s a caricature, the “tankie” is someone that believes everything levied against socialist states by the west is both true and good. In reality, many groups and figures like the Black Panther Party, Nelson Mandela, etc are supportive of socialist states, and are thus the same “tankies” demonized by anti-communists.
Economies where public ownwership is the principle aspect of the economy and where the working classes are in control of the state are neither fascist nor capitalist.
So you’re saying that the working class Chinese citizens have direct, official power over the means of production and can use that to further the political goals of the working class with no repercussions?
Yes, the CPC is a working class party with a hair over 100 million members, and the system of democracy in China is distributed into local, regional, and the central government.
Oh, the government is separated into smaller local and regional governments and less than 10% of all Chinese citizens (there are 1.4 billion) are members of the CCP? Cool fun facts, I always love to learn, but you did not answer my question.
Does the government of the People’s Republic of China support and protect the legal right of the working class to control the means of production?
Public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and the working class is in control of the state. These are the basic requirements for socialism, at least in the Marxist understanding. I’m not sure what exactly you are referring to, a petite bourgeois cooperative quasi-socialism? If the working class directing the economy, as I already explained is the case in China, isn’t “controlling the means of production,” what exactly is your vision here? Because it certainly isn’t standard.
So… no protections, no real policy, no solid connection between the working class and power except for this notion that the government has the interests of the working class at heart. Is that right?
Read through the above list and tell me these people must work for a living, that they could not live solely off of their assets. Why are these 607 people allowed to hoard such massive wealth and own so much if the working class controls the means of production and the economy? How is that good for anyone?
“Tankie” is just a pejorative for those who support socialism in the real world. It’s a caricature, the “tankie” is someone that believes everything levied against socialist states by the west is both true and good. In reality, many groups and figures like the Black Panther Party, Nelson Mandela, etc are supportive of socialist states, and are thus the same “tankies” demonized by anti-communists.
I don’t care what you call it, I’m not supporting fascist state capitalism.
Economies where public ownwership is the principle aspect of the economy and where the working classes are in control of the state are neither fascist nor capitalist.
If the working class were in control of the state they wouldn’t do Tankie shit or get called Tankies.
So you’re saying that the working class Chinese citizens have direct, official power over the means of production and can use that to further the political goals of the working class with no repercussions?
Yes, the CPC is a working class party with a hair over 100 million members, and the system of democracy in China is distributed into local, regional, and the central government.
Oh, the government is separated into smaller local and regional governments and less than 10% of all Chinese citizens (there are 1.4 billion) are members of the CCP? Cool fun facts, I always love to learn, but you did not answer my question.
Does the government of the People’s Republic of China support and protect the legal right of the working class to control the means of production?
Public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and the working class is in control of the state. These are the basic requirements for socialism, at least in the Marxist understanding. I’m not sure what exactly you are referring to, a petite bourgeois cooperative quasi-socialism? If the working class directing the economy, as I already explained is the case in China, isn’t “controlling the means of production,” what exactly is your vision here? Because it certainly isn’t standard.
So… no protections, no real policy, no solid connection between the working class and power except for this notion that the government has the interests of the working class at heart. Is that right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_by_net_worth
Read through the above list and tell me these people must work for a living, that they could not live solely off of their assets. Why are these 607 people allowed to hoard such massive wealth and own so much if the working class controls the means of production and the economy? How is that good for anyone?
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I’m giving my POV as a Marxist that disagrees with being labled “right wing” and having Marxism boiled down to “opposing western nationalism.”
I’d say Marxist-Leninists are the ones getting called Tankie way more than everyday Marxists.