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    8 hours ago

    She certainly tried to help get Trump elected. Just because she’s ineffective doesn’t make her not a piece of shit.

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        3 hours ago

        Wait, I thought they represented “less than 1% of the vote” and therefore don’t matter. But Democrats’ failure to pander to them cost them the election too? I’m confused.

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          2 hours ago

          Every voter you blame for the failure of the Democrats to do the literally measliest effort to court their own base is two voters you’ve cost us in the next election. If you blame greens, your doing 3x damage to the future prospects of Democrats.

          You are doing actual fucking damage in the effort to stop fascism when you blame voters instead of the party. If you did it during the last election cycle, you literally paved the way for Trump to come into power.

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            2 hours ago

            Let me also say, you are right that blaming specific groups of voters is not a good campaign strategy. I’m not suggesting we go knock on doors and berate people who identify as leftist but refuse to vote for Democrats. Of course it’s better to try and persuade them.

            That being said, I can personally come to the conclusion that 2024 was in part their fault, and it does no harm to tell the truth on an obscure web forum that maybe 100 people will read.

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            2 hours ago

            It’s impossible for any party to appeal to a majority of voters on everything. If Democrats could have done something to be more appealing to greens than Stein was, then whatever that something was would have turned off some other segment of the coalition, possible losing net votes. Winning a national election requires broad appeal, and being the only viable non-fascist, pro-democracy ticket should have been reason enough for any decent person to vote for the Democratic candidate. I don’t know what these greens want, but not living in a Christo-fascist hellhole is apparently not a high priority for them. Fuck them to hell.

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                19 minutes ago

                This is a good example of the type of (nominally leftist) person who is essentially unpersuadable. How are you supposed to convince these guys to vote when they don’t see a meaningful difference between MAGA and normie Democrats? They don’t live in reality.