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      This fits better because within Europe is was the “Mediterranean Diat” and southern Europe is worse of financially. Most universal healthcare is in Scandinavia and they aren’t famous for red wine and stuff.

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        If you zoom in on the actual municipalities in Southern Europe where people “lived the longest”, it was inevitably poor townships that were still using paper accounting systems. Also a strong correlation between “living long” and “being in a neighborhood that’s unusually mobbed up”. Sicily’s a classic example.

        That’s not even to comment on health care. Italy, Spain, and France all have excellent public health care systems. And there’s plenty of evidence to suggest people with access to public care do benefit enormously relative to their peers overseas and south of the Mediterranean.

        But if you want to know why certain neighborhoods had a surplus of centenarians, when the average lifespan in even the most developed countries caps out at around 80? That’s just fraud.

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              Well yeah, all the governments since the country union neglected south Italy that it’s basically it’s own thing aside from law

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        Uh, we have universal healthcare in Spain, my experience with hospitals in Germany, Finland and Norway was that you had to pay for going to emergencies.

        Not so sure if most universal healthcare is in Scandinavia…

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      Lol…

      “For example, despite vegetables and sweet potatoes being promoted as key components of the Okinawan ‘Blue Zone’ diets, according to the Japanese government, Okinawans eat the least vegetables and sweet potatoes in Japan and have the highest body mass index.”

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        Yeah, we haven’t been the island of longevity for a long time. Male suicide rates are so high it affects our average lifespan. I really hate when outsiders think of island is some kind of tropical paradise even though we suffer constantly.

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          Extending my sympathies.

          At least people are interested to learn about where you are from (although maybe the wrong lessons) - and hope the community continues to support both a good quality of life and longevity. Both are are critically important

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          Whenever I hear how careers and jobs are done in Japan I feel like I’m listening to a corporate horror story. I get told “oh, but that’s just how things are done over there. They value different things than us”, but people in Japan are still human and the suicide rates tell a different story.

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            Yeah working here seems horrible. I’ve been working for myself ever since I moved back 15 or so years ago (born Okinawan, raised in Canada), so I don’t really have first-hand experience. But looking at my local friends and workers around town, I feel like they work way too hard for what they get.