After some consideration, I’ve decided to replace my consumer router at home with an OpnSense box I control, and use the consumer router as just an access point. The model I have doesn’t seem to support OpenWrt but the default firmware supports access point mode complete with mesh functionality, otherwise I would have just installed OpenWrt on it. I still like the consumer router’s mesh Wi-Fi capabilities, especially the wireless range extender, but don’t trust it enough to let it be the actual root device separating my home network from the open internet. My reasoning is that by having it behind the OpnSense router, I can monitor and detect if it’s exfiltrating any “analytics” data and block them. Worst case scenario I realize it’s too noisy with the analytics and buy a proper business grade access point, or an M.2 Wi-Fi 6 card with some beefy antennas.

Now I’m trying to decide if I should use one of my old mini PCs or if I should get a brand new one with an up to date processor and microcode. The biggest reason I don’t want the consumer router to be the root device anymore is because I don’t know how well they patch their firmware against attackers constantly scanning the internet for vulnerable devices. I imagine an open source router OS with tons of eyes on it and used by actual professionals would inherently be more secure than whatever proprietary cost cut consumer firmware my current router has. I’ve already picked out a suitable mini PC I’m not using and the reason I even started down this rabbit hole is because I have it, but after thinking more about it, I’m worried that whatever security I gain might be undermined by the underlying hardware being old and outdated, especially since the processor is definitely pre Spectre/Meltdown and I doubt it’s still getting microcode or firmware updates.

Again, the reason I ask is because the internet really wants me to think old disused computers are perfect for converting into routers, and I really don’t want to buy a new computer if I don’t have to. How important is the hardware for a router? Can I expect OpnSense to have sufficient security on pretty much any hardware or will a sufficiently old computer completely defeat the purpose of even switching away from the consumer router?

Alternatively, I also have another mini PC with a Ryzen 5 from 2020, and I can reposition it from its current job to router duty, though it would definitely be overkill and wasting the hardware capabilities. Would that be substantially more secure than an older Intel processor?

I also have a Raspberry Pi 4 I can put OpenWrt on, would that somehow be more secure than an x64 computer?

  • irmadlad@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    I don’t think you have to worry about security with old(er) computers that have been reassigned to be a server. You’re going to most likely be running an up-to-date Linux OS, and as long as you keep everything updated, you shouldn’t have any issues. Couple that with security deployments, and I think you will be good.

    The problem is that very old computers are not as efficient when it comes to electricity to run them. Will it run your power bill up an extra $100+/month. Probably not. I would stay clear of old enterprise equipment because they definitely are power hogs. It really depends on how expensive electricity is in your local. For me, it’s relatively cheap. I think I saw an increase of about $25 which is probably a nominal amount that most people would spend on a hobby.

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      9 hours ago

      Wouldn’t that efficiency thing largely depend on what silicon you’re using though? Like, for example, if you have an old AM1 board sitting around, those are 25W APUs and shouldn’t use anywhere near that if used as the base for a router.

      Meanwhile if you’re using, say, an AM3+ board and an FX-4300 for your router, the FX-4300 is a 95W part and more likely to cost more to run by contrast to, say, the Athlon 5350’s 25W on AM1.

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        9 hours ago

        Wouldn’t that efficiency thing largely depend on what silicon you’re using though?

        I would think so, but anecdotally, I didn’t see a horrific rise in electrical costs. Most of my equipment is 5 to 10 years old. Some people spend way more on their hobbies so I figured my costs were in-bounds. If you are in a locale where electricity is at a premium, yeah, I’d probably want equipment more modern that has less power consumption. If OP did a little diffing around on ebay, they could probably pick up a dual nic, small form factor, fanless for pretty cheap.

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      12 hours ago

      I noticed this watching a solar powered gaming build. Better to run faster hardware slower than slower hardware faster for power conservation. The base minimum will be higher but the increase in requirements will rise slower.