Well said.

There is a difficult tension between talking sense with them (like explanations how it takes money to make money, money is power, money and power consolidate to oligarchy and monopoly and the worst state abuses and total absence of freedom), and creating peace without aggravating any identification with their groupthinkified political philosophy.

… Gets me again thinking of what’s the 3rd dimension again, where there may be other common ground, and/or other ways around, dispelling that which keeps us locked in divide-and-conquer problem-reaction-solution crap…

and, or even without that, perhaps there’s still some compelling phrasing, that may help at least half of them cease their defacto (witting or probably not witting) allegiance with the corporate state, like offering an invite to how if they prioritise freedom first, rather than certify losing it from not prioritising it, that may have them voluntarily move just enough to the middle as to not slip into the right-wing-first dogmatic propaganda that gets injected in their media circles to prevent the freedomwards revolutionary stuff growing.

And yeah, it’s irksome (and worsening the difficult tension) that in USA, the word “libertarian”'s largely usurped and presented as entirely right wing. Ironic that they also have a lot of “ancap” too. Testament to how extra the orwellianisms are there, especially since the McCarthyianism, conflating (for many people’s conception) all left as solely the most totalitarianised forms of “Communism”, (which many elsewhere characterise as just another form of state capitalism).

^ All stuff why I think, despite its flaws and shortcomings, the political compass is very useful. … And, why many others reject it, not liking the head-pain it causes them, threatening the world view they identify with, not realising that the ignorance that dies is not them.