OK, explain your job. What is the industry? What’s your stack? How long have you been doing it? The other developers that you work with, if any, how do they feel about AI?
Science, kind of. Multivariate data analysis (MVDA), with lots of large customers in pharma, but the science/math is applicable to any production field.
The current stack is just a React app hosted by a local server installed as part of the desktop software suite, but clients are free to install it independently with their own server stack setup.
I’ve been at this company for over two years, professional web dev for almost a decade, and teaching it in academia for almost a decade before that. And doing web dev in school and privately for almost a decade before that.
The other developers seem to have installed Microsoft’s copilot, and every single one of them seem annoyed by it. It does a good job as a snippet producer but often has to be corrected for even such small tasks.
And they’re not even web devs. I’m the only one in my team.
Look, all bullshit aside, I’ve been an active and employed developer for 22 years. If you don’t learn how to embrace AI in your workflow you are going to be trampled by people who have. It might not be perfect now, but look how far it has come in just a few years. In a few more, it’s not going to be a “snippet producer.”
A long time ago, you might remember, we used to just put code into .js files and ftp them. Then build steps became a thing, and it changed how everything was produced and deployed, for the better! There were many developers who rejected this concept and continued on with things like jQuery, dozens of js files, working on the server, no local dev, etc. Those people either changed their thinking or they lost their jobs.
It’s not about keeping up with the juniors, it’s about keeping up with the seniors who got laid off because of the “economy” and are now flooding the market.
This happened to me about a year ago when my employer laid off the entire IT staff. Every interview I went on I was asked “how do you use AI?” At first I thought it was a trick question like “can you even do your job?”
But it wasn’t. They wanted to know if I had figured it out yet… and what I could teach them.
The idea that you’ll figure it out when you need it is the wrong path to be on. It’s going to happen, like it or not.
It’s not about keeping up with the juniors, it’s about keeping up with the seniors who got laid off because of the “economy” and are now flooding the market.
Yes it is. They are my only competition, because I am the senior. I also work for a consulting company, and we’re the (senior) people who replace workers being laid off when the company realizes they actually needed that workforce. 👍
The idea that you’ll figure it out when you need it is the wrong path to be on. It’s going to happen, like it or not.
What’s to “figure out”? You install it, you prompt it, and off you go (bug hunting).
That’s why I’m confident enough that when I actually do need it, it still won’t be more difficult than what it is now. When it’s actually relevant for me, it’ll probably be even more simple to use than it is now.
You’re like the kind of person who refuses to use code autocomplete.
And yes, I will pet my cat while you work all day because you haven’t figured out how to work artificial intelligence into your workflow properly. Keep in mind, we will make the same amount… I will just have a better quality of life.
OK, explain your job. What is the industry? What’s your stack? How long have you been doing it? The other developers that you work with, if any, how do they feel about AI?
Science, kind of. Multivariate data analysis (MVDA), with lots of large customers in pharma, but the science/math is applicable to any production field.
The current stack is just a React app hosted by a local server installed as part of the desktop software suite, but clients are free to install it independently with their own server stack setup.
I’ve been at this company for over two years, professional web dev for almost a decade, and teaching it in academia for almost a decade before that. And doing web dev in school and privately for almost a decade before that.
The other developers seem to have installed Microsoft’s copilot, and every single one of them seem annoyed by it. It does a good job as a snippet producer but often has to be corrected for even such small tasks.
And they’re not even web devs. I’m the only one in my team.
Well, copilot sucks.
Look, all bullshit aside, I’ve been an active and employed developer for 22 years. If you don’t learn how to embrace AI in your workflow you are going to be trampled by people who have. It might not be perfect now, but look how far it has come in just a few years. In a few more, it’s not going to be a “snippet producer.”
A long time ago, you might remember, we used to just put code into .js files and ftp them. Then build steps became a thing, and it changed how everything was produced and deployed, for the better! There were many developers who rejected this concept and continued on with things like jQuery, dozens of js files, working on the server, no local dev, etc. Those people either changed their thinking or they lost their jobs.
This is one of those times.
I’ll install it when I need it. Like I said, I don’t need it yet. I’m producing results quickly enough because I know exactly what I’m doing.
I’m going to waste more time chasing bugs that the AI produces than I will creating the code myself, trust me. At least right now, with our products.
When I need AI to keep up with the juniors, I’ll consider it. 🙂
It’s not about keeping up with the juniors, it’s about keeping up with the seniors who got laid off because of the “economy” and are now flooding the market.
This happened to me about a year ago when my employer laid off the entire IT staff. Every interview I went on I was asked “how do you use AI?” At first I thought it was a trick question like “can you even do your job?”
But it wasn’t. They wanted to know if I had figured it out yet… and what I could teach them.
The idea that you’ll figure it out when you need it is the wrong path to be on. It’s going to happen, like it or not.
Yes it is. They are my only competition, because I am the senior. I also work for a consulting company, and we’re the (senior) people who replace workers being laid off when the company realizes they actually needed that workforce. 👍
What’s to “figure out”? You install it, you prompt it, and off you go (bug hunting).
That’s why I’m confident enough that when I actually do need it, it still won’t be more difficult than what it is now. When it’s actually relevant for me, it’ll probably be even more simple to use than it is now.
Yeah, you’ve got no idea how to use AI if that’s how you think it works. That’s last year bud. Good luck.
Okay, “bud”, I’ll be fine. I’ll “figure it out”.
You seem really nice, by the way. Keep petting your cat.
fuck me…
You mean to tell me AI agents aren’t the latest fad? That that was “last year”? Go on and tell me what’s so new that you’re using then?
You’re like the kind of person who refuses to use code autocomplete.
And yes, I will pet my cat while you work all day because you haven’t figured out how to work artificial intelligence into your workflow properly. Keep in mind, we will make the same amount… I will just have a better quality of life.
Keep on yelling at clouds!