• HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
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    Hot Take;

    You don’t vote for a dem soc with the expectation that they are infallible or going to stick 100% to their word.

    You vote for the dem soc because the alternatives (neo-liberals and fascists) are objectively worse by every metric.

    Mamdani can backtrack on 75% of what he said and still be the most progressive mayor in NYC history.

    One shouldn’t bitch and moan against those who supported him for supporting what he promised. Hold Mamdani accountable for his backtracking and failures and try for someone comparatively more progressive next time. Of one doesn’t pop up, keep with Mamdani until another pops up or he can’t run anymore.

    Again, it’s not because Mamdani is amazing, but because the others are worse.

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      Careful. You’re dangerously close to explaining to these kids that good is an acceptable compromise to perfect.

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        Yet they’ll freely admit the overton window is shifting right. They’ve seen firsthand that red voters showing up and voting for their shitbag, even if they aren’t promising to completely dismantle every institution they can like theyd want. Meanwhile, if we dont have a leftist messiah they’d rather stay home and bitch online.

        One of these strategies has shown to work and it isnt theirs.

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          I can stay at home, bitch online, and vote all at the same time. Mail in voting is great! I never miss an election since my ballot is mailed to me, and I have a month to find out who these people are.

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        It’s called playing politics trying to succeed during a goddamn fascist regime. If we’re not going to grab our fucking guns then this is the way we have to progress. It’s stupid and it’s wrong but the fact of the matter is there is stupid and wrong people who vote. We shouldn’t be like crabs in a bucket. Let’s let the most progressive mayor we’ve ever elected in US history try to actually do something before we start jumping in criticizing him from all sides of the political spectrum.

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          Nope! The “playing politics” narrative completely falls apart if you even glance at his mayoral campaign. Dude basically had the election in the bag while calling for the arrest of Netanyahu. He earned the vast majority of his support through this rhetoric and only changed course after that was secured.

          Keeping that mega-zio as police commissioner is absurd and completely at odds with the messaging he ran on and won with. Remember, choosing your own police commissioner is something every mayor does, and he chose to keep this one with only 1 year of experience under her belt.

          The way his campaign has been run the past few months you would think New York was entirely populated with Jewish people and nobody else. It’s frankly weird the way he has centered their feelings around his entire administration.

          You’re confusing nuance with centrism, which is a common mistake. My comment however is supported with real arguments and examples, while your comment has none.

  • WallsToTheBalls@lemmynsfw.com
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    Ah yes, leftists letting perfect be the enemy of good and turning on someone they elected before he even takes office

    Iconic

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      Don’t also have discount non leftist bag faith actors pretending to be left to sew discord

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        I dont mind anything you say or said, you edited your comments for my bitchey self who likes to nitpick things. I like you.

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        He literally isn’t even in office yet. You’re shitting the bed over things that have bed happened yet.

        And your third link there just makes you look foolish

        “I may not know if they’re a Zionist because I’m going to be asking them questions related to their jobs” is part of why people voted for the guy

        • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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          Those are already existing actions and decisions…

          And your second link there just makes you look foolish

          I’m just an international leftist who is in solidarity and in critical support of Cuba, if that is “look[s] foolish” to you, you might be in the wrong com LMAO

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            Twas a typo, I was referring to the third. I didn’t think the second was worth acknowledging because again, this is mayor of NYC

            His voters are concerned about what he will do in NYC

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              Twas a typo

              Fair

              I was referring to the third

              Of course it matters because he build part of his campaign around being in solidarity with Palestine and actually being opposed to Zionazism…

              It’s just very symbolic of succdems/demsocs like him to immediately backpedal once farming all those votes and crowdfunding money. 🙃

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    Do these people expect the mayor of NYC to forcefully change the path of the entire nation overnight…?

    Like he exists within the system we all hate. He is probably doing shit that he hates doing because there is another way to do the job. By virtue of him being a politician in this system, he has already surrendered some amount of his respectability and believability.

    What do you expect to happen? Genuinely. Do you expect instant revolution?

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      I think people were expecting him to not protect the super-zio NYPD commissioner. The switch up from “I will arrest Netanyahu” to coddling Zionists over the past couple months is pretty striking. Not sure why Zohran defenders are playing dumb about this.

      Absolutely nobody thought a soc-dem mayoral candidate would be a revolutionary (except perhaps the liberals still defending him).

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      ITT: people not understanding that the mayor of NYC does not have much influence over Israel…

      I’m almost convinced the single issue voters are a psyop

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        It really is strange how you Mamdani defenders refuse to act in good faith about any of this. Absolutely nobody thought the mayor of NYC was gonna dismantle Israel… It’s just kinda weird how he backtracked and softened his stance on these things as his campaign progressed. It’s especially weird because he won the vast majority of voters through his earlier rhetoric. He literally had no reason to capitulate to any of this and has done so anyway. It’s shady.

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    Every time you post a meme like this you should make yourself go and do 8 hours of hyperlocal political engagement as penance. Like a swear jar.

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    TBF, we probably should have seen this coming when Mamdani tweeted protest voting during the 2024 elections.