• Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    6 hours ago

    I’m not interested in sorting leftists into ‘good’ and ‘bad’ categories for public consumption because that approach accepts the premise that left politics must earn legitimacy by distancing itself from its own radicals.

    Even as purely a messaging exercise, this reinforces the idea that domination is a matter of posture rather than structure. That orientation leads the public to see liberation as a branding/mental exercise instead of a material struggle.

    That type of approach narrows what kinds of opposition to capitalism can even be imagined as legitimate.

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      5 hours ago

      I feel your pure motives are in tension with practical constraints.

      Messaging achieves efficacy through simplification. We pick the most important priorities, while still maintaining more rigorous discourse for anyone specifically able to engage more deeply. As movements evolve, and public consciousness develops, we find newer priorities, perhaps ones more favorable generally.

      Being overly earnest in seeking a pure form of communication simply keeps the larger mass alienated that we rather need to be participants.

      Regardless, state capitalism is not any kind of opposition to capitalism. We certainly should exclude opposition that is not meaningful.

      • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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        4 hours ago

        I think you replied to me twice with the same comment:

        What is the practical constraint?

        I already said I dont think there’s value in approaching this as a messaging campaign. I also don’t see how this would be an important priority.

        I don’t understand what you’re trying to convey by saying this is a ‘pure form of communication’. I think that this is a material struggle and trying to approach it like a marketing campaign is not constructive, it also reproduces liberal assumptions about power by treating domination as a matter of style rather than structure.

        Regardless, state capitalism is not any kind of opposition to capitalism. We certainly should exclude opposition that is not meaningful.

        I don’t think wholesale denunciation of past revolutionary movements in the name of consciousness-raising is useful. It turns complex, material struggles into symbols of what not to be, tailored for acceptability rather than understanding. That kind of simplification doesn’t challenge domination, it reassures people that nothing more disruptive need be imagined.

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          46 minutes ago

          The reality is that our movements may only succeed through expanding participation and improving unity.

          Messaging plays a vital role in our movements developing along such a successful course, messaging that is accessible and straightforward even at the cost of completeness.

          I doubt you will find a historical example to contrary, but it seems that on the particular matter we are simply in disagreement.