• cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    Its to the point I don’t associate with people who don’t have a ‘no cops ever’ policy. I can live without friends, I cannot live with getting innocent people (or even myself!) Killed so the state can reach in to swing its dicj around in places it has no business.

    • vrek@programming.dev
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      I was almost killed by police years ago. I worked for a it company who was contracted to a credit union to basically be their it department. They were opening a new branch. I was there doing the final preparations as the grand opening was the next morning. Everything was done, I told the vp/cto/cfo who was my main contact that I would be back the next day but everything should be set so I was calling it a day. I had a notebook with passwords, ip addresses, etc. Which I left behind by accident. I walked out the door and there was 6 cop cars in a semi circle, cops behind their car doors, guns pointed at me, screaming “get down with your hands above your head”. I’m not a fool so I got on the ground. Luckily the vp saw I left my notebook and walked out to give it to me before I drove off. He walked out and got same screaming. He basically gave them his name and titles and we were brought into the building and found the CEO.

      Turns out they installed a security system and the security company tested the system to ensure it was working. They forgot to inform the cops that it was a test. The best part was I was there when the cops gave essentially a ticket for false report to the ceo, I forget the cost but it was in the tens of thousands. The ceo took the ticket “thank you officer” and without missing a beat just turned to the guy from the security company “and this is for you”. No question, no negotiation, just like you fucked up and I’m not covering it.

    • Rooskie91@discuss.online
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      22 hours ago

      The issue, as I see it, is that police only need to exist if you believe force is an acceptable way to compel people’s behavior. From a nonviolent perspective, the argument can simply end there. People do not need to be policed because force itself should not be used to compel anyone against their will.

      And even if you accept the premise that force is sometimes justified, you still have to reckon with the fact that any organization sanctioned to use force will always carry the risk of being captured and repurposed for ends other than its original intent. In my view, that risk is unacceptable. So even on pragmatic grounds, it is better not to create institutions whose defining feature is the sanctioned use of force.

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        9 hours ago

        So, tell me how would you prevent others from using force to compel other peoples behaviour in your society?

        What is to prevent others from robbing, attacking or even murdering you?

        Because it sounds like you just want a society where only the strong survive.

    • Deceptichum@quokk.auOP
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      1 day ago

      I don’t have anything to add, but I love seeing your comments and how passionate you are. Keep up the good fight!

      • BanMe@lemmy.world
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        1 day ago

        Odd that so many women feel they can’t or shouldn’t report it then. An estimated 60-80% of sexual assaults go unreported. So it’s nice that your faith in the system is so much stronger than the average sexually assaulted person.