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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7224516
Imagine spending 3+ years on staying mad at GNOME to release the most underwhelming software imaginable.
System76 is best known for spreading misinfo and lies about GNOME and other upstreams, selling overpriced re-branded clevos, “being made in America”, loving rust and hyping on twitter and mastodon.
Most of the “backlash” against GNOME comes from the a community that has more opinions than users or just straight up misinformation and spite.
COSMIC is very poorly designed, it might be written in the “memory-safe programming language” but it’s clear that they don’t have a design backbone. They basically created the caricature of GNOME’s adwaita but now you can paint your windows in whatever barf-inducing color you want.
They built an entire new desktop from scratch rather than work with GNOME or KDE and in that amount of time, literally every issue that sparked that redesign was resolved upstream in both aforementioned desktops.
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I don’t like System76’s past actions with regards to Gnome, or their spreading of misinformation about Gnome, but shitting on Cosmic in response seems just as petty.
If you don’t like it, don’t use it.
Disclaimer: The following content is my opinion and my opinion alone. I do not speak for GNOME as a whole, only for myself using the observations I’ve made. These observations may be incorrect.
With that being said, this post does have some merit
Pathetic. This “us-vs-them” tribalist mentality of some GNOME folks is embarrassing. Better focus on your own work instead of finding fault in others. Let people work on their own projects in peace if you cannot collaborate with them.
So this is just some hexbear hatespeech?
Please work on your reading comprehension before spreading slander, thank you :)
The fact this came from hexbear.net immediately raises some mental alarms in my head. So, before forming an opinion on this matter…I read the GNOME blog post and processed the presented information before deciding: hexshitpost or no. I found the blog post to ultimately be built on a strong foundation of knowledge/sources; written in a neutral and non-combative tone that calls out System76 without being incendiary or unnecessarily cruel. The case being lain out about System76’s many incidents of spreading harmful misinformation about GNOME makes me understand why GNOME is mostly hated these days by most Linux users…
It’s curious that instead of polishing COSMIC before pushing it out in the world, they released a broken version of what should’ve been something cool! I agree, perhaps working with GNOME and KDE would’ve been better if System76 wasn’t going to meaningfully invest in COSMIC’s stability before release. I’m sure they’ll fix it in post launch updates. From my brief experience with COSMIC, it did have the bones for a good DE, however, the polish was lacking. It made me sad and switch to Bazzite.
I did too have a look at the post for the same reasons and did visit some of the links given there. Honestly it looks more to me like tribalism than anything, see for instance comments and discussions here:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/c67pkm/comment/es6p3zq/
I think by now both groups are so entrenched in their position that they convey things from a strongly biased position and don’t have any desire to find a common ground.
If you actually interact with Hexbear outside of c/slop or c/badposting, you fill find meaningful and balanced interactions from an actually leftist & progressive perspective, just FYI.
Don’t believe all the slander you hear BTW.
Yea this is some BS… gnome doesn’t need any help to burn their own reputation to the ground, this is just a hitpiece by yet another one of their out of touch high and mighty contributors.
Apparently I must work for System76
Never worked with System76, but the last Gnome I have tolerance for is 2.x. I use MATE now.
Valid, it’s not for everyone. But Cosmic will be even worse with all their “I want my own sandbox to rule over”
You seem to be pretty invested in Gnome. But your slander against System76 and COSMIC desktop has no merit. Cosmic is still a work in progress and some friction is expected. But there is no problem in their methodology. They are also doing something that’s very much a norm in the FOSS world - create something new and share it, if they don’t like what’s around. And so far they’re receiving good reviews despite how immature the software is.
Gnome on the other hand has burnt its users so many times that this isn’t even the first desktop to be born out of disagreements with them. And this is also not the first time they have slandered their competition. They absolutely don’t respect anyone but themselves.
