So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?


My best guess is mass riots/civil war. The main reasons why it’s not happening yet are because Trump still has a good number of supporters and because Americans are - rightfully - afraid of their police (or soldiers) killing them.
Trump is steadily losing his supporters every week, and the number of people at risk of dying due to lack of food or healthcare is increasing. If your life is at serious risk anyway, might as well get a shot at a revolution. And the more people willing to do it with you, the better the chances.
However, I’m not sure how realistic this scenario is. I’m concerned that a change of government for a slightly better one may be enough for most Americans to calm down. After all, they’re very much used to being abused by their elites, whether they realize it or not.
A civil war, mass riots, general strike, etc. only happens when people are really suffering. For the most part Americans are still doing pretty okay.
American society is also atomized. Mass political movements are rare and often fizzle out like occupy wallstreet or BLM. There’s widespread dissatisfaction with politics in general. So far nobody has found a way or even wanted to tap that besides MAGA
You’re overlooking that MAGA is an actually revolutionary movement in many ways. MAGA has already managed to storm a government building. The revolution is already happening with Trump at the helm. It’s not going the way you want.
This is the sad truth. MAGA is the revolution against Neoliberalism, combined with the economic transition from Late-Stage capitalism to Techno-Feudalism.
Trump had been steadily losing supporters since January 2017 and he still got more votes in 2024.
The brainwash is working. Dear leader can do nothing wrong. Everything is a hoax and if it’s not, it’s the democrats’ fault.