• BurnedDonutHole@ani.social
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    As a lawyer and a as a normal citizen (mind you I’m not American) I’ve been to couple of situations where it made it better. Once was against a home invasion attempt as a citizen. Other was when someone threatened to kill me in my office as lawyer. There are some more but I’ll keep them to myself.

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        Me and my family would be robbed and who knows what else the person who was trying to enter into my house would have done and as for the event at my office I’ll be shot at my office. Are you really lacking empathy and foresight this much for me to explain all this to you?

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          No, I misread your comment and thought it was from someone who had been in a situation where a gun would have made it better, rather than one where it had.

          Interesting to note though, that at least one of those situations was caused by someone having easy access to firearms.

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            There is nothing interesting about that. In my country it’s hard to get legal carrying license or licence to have a gun. I have one because I’m a lawyer. However criminals don’t care about such legitimacy issues do they? Anyone who is talking about easy access to guns somehow doesn’t understand or ignorant about the fact that criminals can get those guns easier than anyone going through the legitimate ways. It’s not hard to smuggle small firearms. Anywhere in the world you can find an illegal/black market gun easily.

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              And where did they smuggle those guns from? Countries where it is easy to purchase legal firearms?

              Even with 3D printed guns, literally no illegal entity is manufacturing them at scale, because that is still very, very traceable and catchable.

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                If you think that’s where the guns are coming from you’re very naive and ignorant of how the black market works… For example: Austria where Glocks are made, has one of the most strict gun laws yet there are so much black market Glocks in Europe it’s like a toy. Overall there are very strict laws in Europe yet it’s very easy to find guns. Do you think people are buying them from US and countries like that and bring them to Europe to sell in the black market?

                Here is the EU report about it you can read from page 61. If you don’t believe me.

                https://www.europol.europa.eu/cms/sites/default/files/documents/EU-SOCTA-2025.pdf

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                  Maybe reconsider throwing around words like “naiive” when your source is a Europol briefing document covering various threats at a high level with no stats or numbers.

                  Especially since if you actually dig into it, you’d find that Europe’s illegal gun trade comes partially from old military and police weapons from the Balkans / collapse of the Soviet Union, partially from the theft of legal firearms, partially from weapons that are imported (legally and illegally) from the US and Turkey, and minorly from weapons smuggled in from other war zones / 3d printed guns.

                  i.e. three out of four of the biggest sources of illegal guns in Europe are caused by legal firearm ownership, and one is the collapse of the Soviet Union.

                  The fact is that gun control works. Dislike that all you want but it doesn’t change the stats or reality of the world. Here in Canada the vast majority of gun crime is perpetrated using guns illegally smuggled from the US and another ~15% is from legal Canadian guns that were stolen. That’s not an argument that makes wide spread gun ownership look like a good idea.