Wayland is the successor to the X server (X11, Xorg) to implement the graphics stack on Linux. The Wayland project was actually started in 2008, a year before I created the i3 tiling window manager for X11 in 2009 — but for the last 18 years (!), Wayland was never usable on my computers. I don’t want to be stuck on deprecated software, so I try to start using Wayland each year, and this articles outlines what keeps me from migrating to Wayland in 2026.
Your comment to me is that he was NOT buying hardware incompatible with anything but Wayland, and you were responding to my point that he most definitely was…because we quite literally wrote about it himself in 2017 when he got said hardware.
Not sure where your entitled sarcasm comes from when you’re just not reading anything in the first place. His assertions, not even mine.
he got hardware that worked with the default setup for the majority of linux DEs at the time… he literally followed your suggestion and has been waiting for support for it in wayland for a decade.
this has to be the dumbest argument I’ve seen in a few months on here. you’re literally telling someone to sell their car because you want them to switch to a different kind of engine that currently isn’t compatible with their car, even though they haven’t wanted to switch to a new engine for a decade.
Wow, you must be really bad at everything then.
What I’m saying is you don’t by a fucking car before they build the roads to the area you want to drive to. Using your analogy which even you can’t make work 🤣
He didn’t. He wanted to use x11. You are completely incapable of reading. My analogy makes more sense because it’s describing what he did.
If you’re too stupid to click a fucking link at the top of the article, then read my very simple comment detailing his history with this from 2017—not 2025—then it is you can’t read, and are just flailing and pathetic here. Can’t help you, kid.
Well and his current articel from 8 years later says that it worked with X11 for years, so what? Maybe your arguments are a bit out of date? Information can be obsolete after nearly a decade.
It’s literally part of the same article. Right there. Click above. Second paragraph. Link right there. Talking about buying the hardware I years ago. The framing of the entire article. The point of the thing. The point of my comment. Don’t know how much more clear it could possibly be.
Are you trying to just ignore it? Revisionist history of a blog entry? Lololz. Sad, kid.
I am not more ignoring it then you are ignoring the fact that the hardware article is 8 years old and that the current article makes part of the old one obsolete.
It’s literally the framing of the article. It’s in the setup of the article. You want to pick and choose the content of the writing to have your point come true, go ahead and be that pathetic. I won’t even try and stop you. 🤣
All I am saying is that his so ultra specific hardware works flawless under X11 and that a new solution that plans to replace the old one should support at least the same displays, that should be the MVP - don’t be worse then the old cruft.
And I still don’t see where the 8 years old article would say anything otherwise, at least nothing that was not replaced by info from the more recent article. And yes, he has linked his old article in the new one but that doesn’t mean that every single sentence in it is still fully valid after all those years.
And if you’re new to this world, my point stands exactly as you’re describing: you don’t buy hardware that is wildly incompatible with everything, and then complain when it doesn’t work. Which is what he’s doing here.
Yes, I understand he’s familiar with this world through his FOSS efforts, and yes, I get that it worked under X11 (only the display server and not most apps at the time, but I digress), but my point still stands.
The tone of the writing is an impatient “I’M STILL WAITING OVER HEEEERE”, and the response should be “Valid, but you’re going to continue waiting, so deal with it.” because UNLESS you intend to help contribute and fix the problem yourself, you’re at the whim of capacity of the project that is working on whatever features you need working. You’re getting it for free, not contributing, and still complaining.
I find nothing more insufferable than people who do this exact same thing, and are extreme outliers to begin with. You know how many people have 8k monitors even to this day? Less than 1%, and I’ll wager that the vast majority of them don’t run in 8k resolution, because why? Literally nothing you’re going to touch - even in video production - is going to use it.
There is a lot of valid points there yes, still don’t see where the old article would be relevant for those though, and I think that I really can’t say a lot against your arguments in general. All is clear now! Thank you for this longer clarifiation and have a nice day!