it was so much time saved, compared to running around and replacing paper/stickers
It’s right there in the original comment. If it saves a significant amount of time, it reduces the overall labour burden on the workers, meaning it’s likely they will require fewer workers to complete a night’s shift (restocking, price updates, cleaning, etc.) with no real benefit to the workers considering cost savings will just be hoovered up by corporate.
The benefit to the worker I not having to waste their time with doing something that could be done better, the issue is how the company responds, not the actual “work” itself going away.
The idiotic arguments I see every time jobs are automated away is just “less jobs bad”, yes in our capitalistic system where companies are insentivized the way they are I understand not having a job is worse then having one where you do stupid busy work, however that in itself is a stupid reason to bemoan any efficiency or time saving gains by actually useful technology uses.
I am a hard worker and I like to find ways to be more efficient and optimize my time spent on tasks, things like this are exactly that in theory.
That doesn’t benefit the worker at all though. It is an overall detriment to the worker class as a whole.
In this case, no one is saying “less jobs bad”. They’re saying the hording of savings from job elimination is further increasing wealth disparity, shifting money from the worker class to that of the elite. It’s not like the workers’ salaries will go up or the cost of goods will go down as a result.
I’m all for eliminating useless busy work, but the rewards of that should be reaped by those doing the actual damn work. Assuming you work for some company and not for yourself, all that time you put into being more efficient and optimal does is makes your employer more money and gives you a dopamine hit for being told you’re a good boy.
It does, as it’s one less manual thing they need to do.
You’re making exactly the argument I’m talking about, efficiency gains bad because companies always look to cut people when efficiency improves rather then investing back into their people because number must go up and shareholder value and yada yada capitalism shit.
At the lowest level, we should be happy when things are made easier or more efficient as that means we can spend less time on it and therefore should be able to now use that time for something better.
What do you want? People still working in the fields or mines at the scale they used to? It literally does not make sense. What we need is either socialism or extremely strong social benefits systems for people whose jobs are no longer relevant, its not like they got enjoyment out of those things in the first place a majority of the time it’s just to make ends meet.
What we need is either socialism or extremely strong social benefits systems
This is exactly what was implied by my previous comments. I already told you flat out that I’m for eliminating useless busy work. Why would you assume I want “people still working in the fields or mines at the scale they used to?”
I’m not sure why you were arguing with me then, we have the same understanding.
The ability to change price tags digitally is a net positive in theory for the worker and the company, my initial comment while sarcastic is exactly why I mentioned Miners and Farm workers, jobs that have been mostly eliminated or completely changed due to technological advancement, that on its own is not a bad thing like some here would argue.
It’s right there in the original comment. If it saves a significant amount of time, it reduces the overall labour burden on the workers, meaning it’s likely they will require fewer workers to complete a night’s shift (restocking,
price updates, cleaning, etc.) with no real benefit to the workers considering cost savings will just be hoovered up by corporate.The benefit to the worker I not having to waste their time with doing something that could be done better, the issue is how the company responds, not the actual “work” itself going away.
The idiotic arguments I see every time jobs are automated away is just “less jobs bad”, yes in our capitalistic system where companies are insentivized the way they are I understand not having a job is worse then having one where you do stupid busy work, however that in itself is a stupid reason to bemoan any efficiency or time saving gains by actually useful technology uses.
I am a hard worker and I like to find ways to be more efficient and optimize my time spent on tasks, things like this are exactly that in theory.
That doesn’t benefit the worker at all though. It is an overall detriment to the worker class as a whole.
In this case, no one is saying “less jobs bad”. They’re saying the hording of savings from job elimination is further increasing wealth disparity, shifting money from the worker class to that of the elite. It’s not like the workers’ salaries will go up or the cost of goods will go down as a result.
I’m all for eliminating useless busy work, but the rewards of that should be reaped by those doing the actual damn work. Assuming you work for some company and not for yourself, all that time you put into being more efficient and optimal does is makes your employer more money and gives you a dopamine hit for being told you’re a good boy.
It does, as it’s one less manual thing they need to do.
You’re making exactly the argument I’m talking about, efficiency gains bad because companies always look to cut people when efficiency improves rather then investing back into their people because number must go up and shareholder value and yada yada capitalism shit.
At the lowest level, we should be happy when things are made easier or more efficient as that means we can spend less time on it and therefore should be able to now use that time for something better.
What do you want? People still working in the fields or mines at the scale they used to? It literally does not make sense. What we need is either socialism or extremely strong social benefits systems for people whose jobs are no longer relevant, its not like they got enjoyment out of those things in the first place a majority of the time it’s just to make ends meet.
This is exactly what was implied by my previous comments. I already told you flat out that I’m for eliminating useless busy work. Why would you assume I want “people still working in the fields or mines at the scale they used to?”
Sheesh.
I’m not sure why you were arguing with me then, we have the same understanding.
The ability to change price tags digitally is a net positive in theory for the worker and the company, my initial comment while sarcastic is exactly why I mentioned Miners and Farm workers, jobs that have been mostly eliminated or completely changed due to technological advancement, that on its own is not a bad thing like some here would argue.