• humanspiral@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    2 days ago

    Russia pursued peace for 8 years, and had very reasonable red lines to avoid the war. US categorically 100% forced the war with the arrogance that Russians would believe the propaganda given to Europeans that NATO is a defensive alliance, and Ukraine must remain nazified. No respect for Russian security was ever considered. Extreme failure of public sanity and awareness to side with US propaganda and subjugation of Europe instead of reality.

    • LeninWeave [any]@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      I salute your effort to push back on this stuff. I think you hit the nail on the head in your previous comment for why people never seem to do any basic kind of “maybe Russia also has real geopolitical considerations and is not simply populated by evil orcs” analysis. I’ll quote the part I think explains it below, emphasis added by me.

      The critical thinking question

      As you say, Europe had a brighter future when it had better relations with Russia. If the Europeans want to destroy their own industry and sink their economies by helping the US cut them off from Russian oil with this manufactured conflict, then I suppose no one else can stop them.