• Steve@communick.news
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    Story is literally the first, smallest, simpelest part of a movie. If that’s what you judge movies on, maybe you should read books instead.

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      How… What…? So you watch movies mostly because of the pretty pictures? Are you a toddler?

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        For lots of reasons. I enjoy some movies for the story, others for the performances, a few for the world building, some for the concepts, occasionally for making me think about them weeks later, sometimes for the cozy mindless sweetness. And dozens more reasons. I can find reasons to appreciate nearly any movie.

        Saying that every movie needs to have this one thing to be good, is the definition of narrow minded.

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          But the story/plot is what the movie bases its foundation on. A well written movie with bad CGI is better than a visually good movie with a bad story. IMO, yes you can enjoy a movie for specific reasons, but the core story should be at least good for me to like it. Just my opinion of course.

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            There are great movies that can’t even be said to have an actual story at all. Just a collection of scenes that hopefully make you feel something.

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              I would probably argue the collection of scenes tell a great story, which is why it’s good. Most Snyder films for example can be visually stunning without a lot of dialogue but the story is terrible that it takes away any enjoyment of the visuals.

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                Dialog isn’t a requirement of a story. Good Boy has less than a dozen spoken lines in the movie, as it’s from a dogs perspective. But it also has a very clear story and plot. That’s not what I’m talking about. Check out some movies on this list.

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                  That’s fair. Non-narrative films are a specific niche though, and specifically not having a story is their identity. You can’t judge a film for its story if there intentionally isn’t one.

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                That’s probably 20% on the way to what I mean.
                It still has a pretty clear describable naritive story. It doesn’t always make sense, and sometimes you don’t know what’s happening. Maybe yah. It’s less story than I remember.

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          Well, yeah. Avatar has to be good world building. But what’s the point if it wastes it on a mid story with bad plot?

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            World building isn’t enough on its own? You can’t just put on the movie and hang out in this place for a while?

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              Apparently not. People here act all high and mighty when it comes to movies doing well with general audiences. Watch, in just a couple years we’ll get posts on Lemmy saying “the Avatar movies were actually pretty good, I don’t understand the hate” just like on reddit.

              This community is turning into r/movies every goddamn day, where any time someone posts an article or something about a popular movie most of the community feels the need to jump on a hate bandwagon and act like their own farts are better moviegoing experiences.