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    …and the 2025 budget is nearly 30 billion, with an addition 45 billion for constructing new detention centers, with another 10 billion into unallocated DHS funds, plus more…

    https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/press-release/congress-approves-unprecedented-funding-mass-detention-deportation-2025/

    Look, the democrats are evil. But they are not the same level of evil we are seeing right now with this current administration. Posts like this one that selectively show information to reinforce “both sides are the exact same” narratives are not what’s needed right now.

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      It’s the same bullshit some users pushed on this platform for the previous election. “vote third party because democrats also support Israel”, how did that go? I’m sure Kamala would have behaved just like Trump, since both parties are the same huh?

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        I am just from small shitty european country, but I think thats the main point, you need to vote for third, fourth hell even fifth party, because the binary selection is exactly the culprit. We have government consisted of 6 parties, that brings you closer to freedom. In US you are choosing from bad or even worse.

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      Now in all fairness, inflation is a thing and in the last 10 years there has been a lot of noise about stopping fentanyl. Dont forget that the C is Customs.

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      It’s also completely disingenuous. Every country needs customs and immigration enforcement. Just from a perspective of preventing transmission of plants and animals that do not belong in other countries. So yeah if travel increases then the budget for things travel related will increase as well. Pretending like what Trump is doing now with the Gestapo is anything similar to funding the department in previous years is so disingenuous as to be essentially a lie.

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      Yeah, I’m not sure where this coming from. I have mixed feelings about the OP and your comment. And I think it’s just a result of a lot of propaganda of division we all have been subjected to.

      Really, it’s meaningless to talk about two pro capitalist parties. It was inevitable that we reached this stage under the red one. But that doesn’t mean the blue one wasn’t a part of the scam that got us here.

      Yes. This IS different. It’s been the destination for awhile. But the steps have been taken by both of these parties that serve the interest of capital, imperialism, and white supremacy.

      If you can’t look at the absolute useless inaction of the Democrats today, as we stare fascism in the face. Well, I think you should reflect on why they are so silent. Their job of being a controlled opposition party is essentially over.

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      This is whats needed right now, they will start politicking for our votes in a few months hoping political amnesia has kicked in and we will have forgotten everything they did which led us to where we are right now. Don’t be confused with lesser evil bullshit, theres only evil.

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        There absolutely is lesser evil. And then when the lesser evil is in power, you can choose the lesser evil for the next local and state and primary. Gradual slide to the right is how we got here. A gradual slide to the left is better than continuing that trajectory. A rapid move to the left would be better of course.

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          Except that your lesser evil never moves to the left. If you allow a small, acceptable amount of evil, the amount of evil that’s acceptable next time is slightly larger. When you compound that over 50 years you have a party that’s gone from the likes of Jimmy Carter to the party that’s saying what genocide in Gaza.

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          How did we get a gradual slide to the right with all these “lesser evil” centrist candidates and people following this logic for decades? It’s because it doesn’t fucking work.

          The right goes around making maximalist demands and standing on all kinds of unreasonable principles and it works. Their politicians know they’ll lose the cranks if they’re soft on something like abortion or guns. Democrats expect people to foll in line behind the lesser evil, and they generally have, and what we have now is the result of that. It’s long past time to acknowledge that standing on principle works.

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            The same way we got a gradual slide to the left in the preceding 200 years under the same system. As that was voter intention.

            Propaganda doesn’t help. Allowing corporations and the wealthy outside influence in speech doesn’t help. Undermining education doesn’t help. A complicit media doesn’t help. However, it’s not the system of voting that is the problem that is causing the swing right. It can just as easily cause a swing left. In increments.

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              Incrementalism does not work, incrementalism results in incremental fascism.

              In 1984, James Baldwin said

              What is it you wanted me to reconcile myself to? I was born here almost 60 years ago, I’m not gonna live another 60 years.

              You always told me it takes time.

              It’s taken my father’s time, my mother’s time. My uncle’s time. My brother’s and my sister’s time. My nieces’ and my nephews’ time.

              How much time do you want? For your progress.

              He apparently had been hearing that it takes time, progress takes time, all of his life. Incrementalism is something that liberals tell themselves is the only path forward because they know that they have no plans for actual progress forward.