• naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    13 hours ago

    It’s interesting to live through the death of a modern empire. Given how much access there is to history it really surprises me that no lesson is learned and no graceful transition is opted for.

    Instead they follow the same route as all the empires of old, increasing violence and desperation practically guaranteeing hatred and reprisal when they are crippled and broken.

    Of course all the elite will be dead by then so I suppose material analysis wins again as the correct lens to analyse history through.

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      no graceful transition is opted for

      transition to what, exactly? i think people might have vastly different opinions about this, so it’s not easy to just go to a new thing

      Instead they follow the same route as all the empires of old, increasing violence and desperation practically guaranteeing hatred and reprisal when they are crippled and broken.

      When you are about to die yourself, do you just let it happen or do you struggle and try to fight against it?

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        39 minutes ago

        Fighting back against fascism is great, but fighting for a slightly more benevolent form of fascism won’t get you anywhere. You really think the Dems will abolish ice if they get Trump out if office?

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      being the only dinosaur left unscarred from ww2 meant none of these family-of-sociopaths were ever forced to recognize we’re kind of in this mess together. needing to completely rebuild your infrastructure from 0 kind forces a bit of empathy into everyone i think.

      with how purposefully fractured the US is (long long history of this, many towns across the country are de facto company towns for the local real estate baron), this will only happen if the country has another Great Depression era. which is very much a possibility given the US’s ever growing sovereign-debt crisis and a completely gutted internal manufacturing capacity/capability.

      if/when the US finally defaults and USD crumbles as world reserve currency (which is already happening, countries are just trying to gtfo as sustainably as they can without crashing their own house of cards)…shit goes from bad to worse real fucking quick.

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        12 hours ago

        Nah this is US exceptionalism still. The circumstances of the usa are no more or less unique than any previous empire and the same forces rule.