• JamBandFan1996@lemmy.ml
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    4 hours ago

    You are off your rocker if you think whatever comes next will be indigenous led lol. Not that I would be opposed to it. The scary thing is though, what does come next? If it’s socialism great, but what if it’s fascism

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      4 hours ago

      It’s important to recognize that the primary contradiction within the US Empire is settler-colonialism. The ones most oppressed by the current society are generally the ones most quickly adaptive to theory and practice, and this isn’t because oppressed people are “morally superior” but out of sheer survival. It’s also why there are so many queer communists. Without combatting settler-colonialism, anything that takes the place of the US Empire will fundamentally replicate that and would be closer to barbarism.

      The US Empire is already fascist, fascism isn’t a separate mode of production but instead capitalism in decay.

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        51 minutes ago

        “native Americans are more likely to like communism” isn’t exactly a solid foundation for establishing “an indigenous led, decolonial socialist state [that] takes the place of the former US Empire,”

        It is highly unlikely that if the us government collapses everyone’s going to be like “whelp let’s let the communist indigenous people lead may as well, even though they don’t have the numbers, arms, food or production to run anything”

        Sure in an idealistic sense it would be cool to go full Ferngully/dances with wolves/Avatar/noble savage cliche but if we’re going to dream that big I’d like an infinite pizza shooting unicorn.

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          48 minutes ago

          You’re right, that isn’t a solid foundation. What is, is working class organization along correct lines of struggle, part of which is decolonization, as the US Empire’s primary contradiction is settler-colonialism.

          Further, you’re right to say that if the US Empire collapsed now that it would result in barbarism. That’s the point of organizing, though, so that when the US Empire is in crisis, we can overthrow it and implement a new system.

          None of this is based on ideals, but learning from historical struggles for socialism.

      • JamBandFan1996@lemmy.ml
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        3 hours ago

        Well, I wouldn’t really say it’s fascist quite yet (maybe I’m ignorant) but it’s well on the way. My point is it could get a lot worse before it gets better

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          48 minutes ago

          It’s been fascist for decades. Fascism doesn’t become official only when it happens to white people almost as much as the rest of us.

        • Unruffled [they/them]@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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          48 minutes ago

          Both your political parties regularly vote to continue funding ICE, DHS and the NSA. Even as recently as a few days ago. They are both pro-militarisation of the police. They both support the prison industrial complex. They both support US actions in Venezuela. And the fact you can’t make political protests in the US without the risk of being shot or imprisoned nowadays should tell you that you are already living in a fascist state. It’s a fantasy to think that, even if the Dems somehow get this administration out of office, they will fundamentally change any of those things. At least now the mask is off and you know what you are up against. The problem with libs is that they think everything would be a-ok so long as their fascist was in charge.

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          3 hours ago

          Fascism and liberalism don’t have hard lines distinguishing them, they each contain elements of the other.