The United States banned approvals of new telecommunications equipment from Huawei and ZTE, opens new tab in 2022 and has encouraged Europe to do the same.

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldOP
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    The argument - that goes back to the Bush “War on Terror” anti-China tech policy - is that any hardware produced outside the NATO sphere could leave domestic users vulnerable to foreign surveillance.

    But scratch the surface of this critique and you find something very different. It’s the US technology that’s riddled with backdoors.

    According to reports, the hack took advantage of systems built by ISPs like Verizon, AT&T, and Lumen Technologies (formerly CenturyLink) to give law enforcement and intelligence agencies access to the ISPs’ user data. This gave China unprecedented access to data related to U.S. government requests to these major telecommunications companies. It’s still unclear how much communication and internet traffic, and related to whom, Salt Typhoon accessed.

    The problem with Chinese technology is that, in many cases, American surveillance companies haven’t penetrated it. A domestic market with Chinese phones and routers and other online gadgets riddles the Five Eyes Panopticon with blind spots.

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        Sure. But to say the American entrenchment around American tech companies is some kind of buffer to Chinese spying clearly hasn’t born out in practice. Americans have pockmarked their tech with security vulnerabilities and Chinese hackers have waltzed right through them. You aren’t safer from the CCP because you’re on American hardware. Just the opposite.

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          Are you truly implying it’d be more secure to buy Chinese tech then US specifically if you’re not wanting to be spied on by the CCP?

          That’s quite the take lmao.

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            23 hours ago

            Are you truly implying it’d be more secure to buy Chinese tech then US specifically

            Only if your primary concern was US-centric surveillance. If you cared about Chinese surveillance, idfk. Big hanging question mark as to whether American native systems are more compromised than Chinese native systems. All I can say for sure is that American systems are confirmed compromised by both US-friendly surveillance and Chinese hacker groups.

            That’s quite the take lmao.

            It’s very easy to believe “Thing from China bad because China Bad”. But once you look into the actual security schema for these tools and applications, you discover Americans did an excellent job of leaving their hardware exposed to domestic infiltration and a terrible job of securing it against foreign intrusion.

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              If you think the US isn’t backdooring Chinese tech too you’d be mistaken lmao.

              Its not that Chinese tech is any more secure fundamentally, they just don’t literally build in backdoors for the CIA/FBI/Etc… They’re still hackable especially if they’re just running android or similar.

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                lmao

                This seems to be the bottom of every “America Good, China Bad” argument.

                Just 😂🤣🇺🇸😹. It’s Obvious, Idiot. Just Think Logically.

                Its not that Chinese tech is any more secure fundamentally

                Is it? Is this worth interrogating, even slightly? Is there any actual difference between industrial models or design philosophies?

                No. Lolz. Roflcopter.

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                  5 hours ago

                  I’m not sure how you’ve come to the conclusion I think America is good in any way lmao. Are you arguing with someone else?

                  And yeah I’m a Millenial and use lol and lmao, don’t care what you think about that.

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                    3 hours ago

                    I’m a Millenial and use lol and lmao

                    My Greatest Generation grandmother also used them, particularly in her waning years