i switched over to Bazzite about a week ago, and it has been super frustrating. though it’s not in where you think. the game my group is playing (Arc Raiders) worked without a hitch.
but my speaker system, and microphone forced me to learn a whole lot about USB hand shakes,
ghost usb profiles,
usb cable choice,
what a flatpac is and why people hate it,
nano eccentricities (including how to save and quit, just labeling ctrl-o as save and not overwrite would stop so much bs),
sink states,
device name resolution,
pipewire,
pipe plumber,
pipe wire holding devices hostage,
usb power flapping because i plugged my speakers and my mic to close to each other causing the os to just give up on the both of them.
the timing of when the os asks for usb identifiers, verses when the usb devices are given power
out dated guides relying on depreciated methods and acceptable code used in modifiers to os procedure.
my experience and days of trouble shooting the “easy” replacement os for gaming has frightened my friend group far away from linux.
Most people do like flatpaks, I use them because I use Kinonite and Atomic Budgie, but there are those people that don’t like them or any other 3rd party universal packaging format. it’s kind of a Luddite attitude if you ask me.
Exact opposite experience here, coming from using Linux as toy desktops for the past few years. My main PC is EndeavourOS, and my gaming laptop is Bazzite. Bazzite has been a really good hands off “just works” distro that I don’t have to think about.
i think the real issue is my computer has been silently suffering for all these years as windows just didn’t tell me my hardware is borked and old. and just has a shot gun full of code that fixes whatever it can stick to. and Bazzite either does not have that, or i fell into an exception in use due to hatred and old hardware.
but getting into the weeds was very difficult, and my desk is not as flat as it once was
Another data point to add. I’ve started using Bazzite and introduced it to my brother. The only hitch I’ve noticed is not being able to play stuff like the new Battlefield.
It is by far the easiest operating system to install, keep updated, and run basic apps and play games on. Flatpaks are great. Brew is good for CLI tools. AppImages are another alternative to Flatpaks that work well. Steam comes pre-installed, and most games run well.
There are no ads, no AI, no dark patterns. It’s just a simple operating system that keeps itself updated.
Where it starts to get complicated is if you want to do anything off the beaten path. In fact, Bazzite is much more complicated than something like Fedora or Debian if you need to do anything like this. Because you need to worry about either layering with rpm-ostree, or creating your own base image with a Containerfile (FROM bazzite). But my examples of these are installing GhosTTY (non AppImage), Paretto Security, and 1Password SSH Daemon/op. Most people will never need to do these.
I’m a software engineer, and I’ve found that for the most part, Bazzite is good enough to run on my gaming pc and work pcs.
I’m sorry you had such a bad first experience with it.
“Where it starts to get complicated is if you want to do anything off the beaten path. In fact, Bazzite is much more complicated than something like Fedora or Debian if you need to do anything like this. Because you need to worry about either layering with rpm-ostree, or creating your own base image with a Containerfile (FROM bazzite).”
I’ve had a similar complaint about bazzite. Some obscure things are just harder to install because of it being immutable. But I also haven’t managed to accidentally break it, like I have with other OS’s. Also, sometimes my problem has simply been looking up instructions for fedora and assuming they’d apply to bazzite instead of just looking up the bazzite instructions (which actually existed and were fairly distinct and didn’t involve rpm-ostree stuff).
i switched over to Bazzite about a week ago, and it has been super frustrating. though it’s not in where you think. the game my group is playing (Arc Raiders) worked without a hitch.
my experience and days of trouble shooting the “easy” replacement os for gaming has frightened my friend group far away from linux.
Huh, most people actually like Flatpak, and for good reasons too.
Most people do like flatpaks, I use them because I use Kinonite and Atomic Budgie, but there are those people that don’t like them or any other 3rd party universal packaging format. it’s kind of a Luddite attitude if you ask me.
If you know what flatseal is and how to set permissions, it gets a lot better.
Exact opposite experience here, coming from using Linux as toy desktops for the past few years. My main PC is EndeavourOS, and my gaming laptop is Bazzite. Bazzite has been a really good hands off “just works” distro that I don’t have to think about.
i think the real issue is my computer has been silently suffering for all these years as windows just didn’t tell me my hardware is borked and old. and just has a shot gun full of code that fixes whatever it can stick to. and Bazzite either does not have that, or i fell into an exception in use due to hatred and old hardware.
but getting into the weeds was very difficult, and my desk is not as flat as it once was
Another data point to add. I’ve started using Bazzite and introduced it to my brother. The only hitch I’ve noticed is not being able to play stuff like the new Battlefield.
It is by far the easiest operating system to install, keep updated, and run basic apps and play games on. Flatpaks are great. Brew is good for CLI tools. AppImages are another alternative to Flatpaks that work well. Steam comes pre-installed, and most games run well.
There are no ads, no AI, no dark patterns. It’s just a simple operating system that keeps itself updated.
Where it starts to get complicated is if you want to do anything off the beaten path. In fact, Bazzite is much more complicated than something like Fedora or Debian if you need to do anything like this. Because you need to worry about either layering with
rpm-ostree, or creating your own base image with a Containerfile (FROM bazzite). But my examples of these are installing GhosTTY (non AppImage), Paretto Security, and 1Password SSH Daemon/op. Most people will never need to do these.I’m a software engineer, and I’ve found that for the most part, Bazzite is good enough to run on my gaming pc and work pcs.
I’m sorry you had such a bad first experience with it.
“Where it starts to get complicated is if you want to do anything off the beaten path. In fact, Bazzite is much more complicated than something like Fedora or Debian if you need to do anything like this. Because you need to worry about either layering with rpm-ostree, or creating your own base image with a Containerfile (FROM bazzite).”
I’ve had a similar complaint about bazzite. Some obscure things are just harder to install because of it being immutable. But I also haven’t managed to accidentally break it, like I have with other OS’s. Also, sometimes my problem has simply been looking up instructions for fedora and assuming they’d apply to bazzite instead of just looking up the bazzite instructions (which actually existed and were fairly distinct and didn’t involve rpm-ostree stuff).
nano is the Fishcer Price’s My First Text Editor and you’re expected to quickly graduate to something that sucks way more
I tried to like vim. But nano just works.