• Nvidia and Micron are making emotional appeals to consumers while PC users express frustration with big AI companies’ practices and self-serving motives.
  • Memory vendors predict DRAM and SSD shortages lasting until mid-2027, while new tariffs on advanced computing chips and potential Steam Machine pricing over $1,000 add to consumer concerns.
  • The article highlights how corporations use emotional messaging to mask financial interests, advising consumers to remain skeptical of such appeals.
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    6 days ago

    Here’s an idea: a catalogue of companies who pulled this shit during the bubble, so we know who not to buy from when it bursts.

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    7 days ago

    It almost seems like they want to make home computing unaffordable, so you have to rent PC time from a cloud provider. This way they nickel and dime you, and use your data to train their LLMs.

    Micron and nvidia get their cut by being able to set whatever prices they can imagine.

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      there are plenty of home computers for sale for under $500. i’m on a $700 laptop right now that’s 4 years old.

      they just can’t run modern games. i can run 2d games just fine or old games.

      the gaming crowd seems to forget that most computers don’t use integrated graphics and a $1000 PC is a luxury purchase.

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    7 days ago

    Yet if prices somehow go back to sanity, people will flock back to nVidia like they always did

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    Way, way back, capitalism was a version of “the customer is always right.” Various companies would compete to sell a product at the right price point and quality the customer could accept. It wasn’t perfect, but it was pointed mostly the right direction.

    Now capitalism is just the few major companies competing to see who can make the biggest cash grab and fuck the regular customer with prices, fees, and enshittification. Now we have dystopian monopolies divorced from the consumers.

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      You could go further and say what’s happening now isn’t capitalism at all. Yanis Varoufakis calls the modern world economy “technofeudalism”: it’s controlled by information hypercompanies like Amazon, Google, and Apple, that make money not by producing anything, but by controlling the flow of information between consumers and producers, and charging producers rent for access to consumers.

      If you’re an app developer, you pay Google and Apple whatever they ask, and you follow their rules, or you don’t get to sell your product in their app stores; if you sell products, you give Amazon their cut, or you don’t get to sell in their market. And because Google and Apple and Amazon have so effectively entrapped customers, capitalists who don’t agree to their terms can’t get to their consumers at all.

      Capitalists aren’t the masters of the economy - they’re vassals. They pay their technofeudal lords their tribute, their 30% cut of revenue, and compete with each other for the remaining scraps. And then they raise prices and cut wages, squeeze their workers and exploit their consumers even more, in order to make enough money to survive at all.

    • gwl [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      The customer is always right was never a thing.

      For a start, it’s an intentional shortening of the actual phrase, for exploitative reasons, of “the customer is always right in matters of taste”

      Which just means “if they want to buy ugly shit, let them”

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    speaking of gaming i know people with recent degree in gaming related field, not surprise he couldnt find a job in that field.

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    I said before and I will say it again. AI is product being built by its users, an unfinished program that it is used wrong just for companies to make money. AI hasn’t made any progress and we won’t see any progress, because it is used by companies to profit.
    They don’t care about the economy and the downsides, they care to make us use AI.

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      i overheard today on the bus, that someone(assume in grad school) as a TA was planning to use AI to grade all the classes homework without care if it was inconsistently correct or not, it isnt going to end well.

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        I am in a position to see first hand people regularly dropping ~$4000USD on “mid-range” PCs. It hasn’t slowed down purchasing of PCs, if anything it is speeding up compared to this time last year.

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          at that pricepoint it’s just about showing off how much money you have.

          typical rich way to backhand brag about how rich you are is to whine about how ‘expensive’ things are that are luxury items.

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      motherboard prices haven’t inflated too much yet. gaming/consumer motherboards aren’t in demand from the AI industry. the want server hardware

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        The motherboard was from over ten years ago, that means that I probably won’t find one that matches the old APU and RAM that’s on it. I already can’t find a matching CPU fan for the APU, also no motherboard with DDR3 around. Part of the HHD is malfunction, but it’s workable. I was considering replacing them altogether someday, but maybe not so much now. The best scenario is I find out what’s wrong with the motherboard and fix it, then just keep using it.

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    And all these memory are spent on the generation of pornographic content in the highest quality.

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      Are they really able to replicate pornography like that? I know that for normal stuff, the videos are only under ten seconds or so.

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        You can get up to 12 minutes locally even if you’re patient. Technically you can go way further if you do it in parts though, and use multiple generations. Might take a few weeks to “direct” it right though, depending what you want to make. If it’s vanilla stuff, maybe 3 days for a 45 minute video on a 3090? (Via 3-5 minute chained segments, with smaller second long segments for smooth camera angle changes)

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      All AI is good for is giving instructions on how to make bombs, and generating images of tits, but they caught on so now we just end up with search summaries saying it’s not physically possible to [xyz].

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      Im kind of wondering if that isnt the real end game- there was a Bezos quote i saw the other day, where he said he wants to see personal computing die out in favor of essentially cloud based, where users own minimal hardware and just rent compute time for everything.

      It kind of feels like they dont actually need ai to succeed- its already achieving the goal of denying components to end users. If they maintain that scarcity long enough, they can kill the pc/ laptop status quo. (Especially if chip makers abandon those fabs for data center tailored units for a whole generation, until theres nothing viable left on the market)

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        The good thing is that we have a few giants with vested interests in resisting that. PC OEMs like Dell and HP, Clevo, Intel/AMD who still have huge consumer sales, and the big one:

        Apple.

        Apple is all-in on personal compute, and they have the muscle to resist the anticompetitive plays, hopefully.

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          Tangential, but ironically the only used laptops (e: for repair) you can buy right now that haven’t been gutted for RAM and NVME are macbooks and similar that have everything soldered onto the motherboard.

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    Lol

    “Our viewpoint is that we are trying to help consumers around the world. We’re just doing it through different channels. […] What’s going on right now is that the TAM [ed: Total Addressable Market] and data center is growing just absolutely tremendously. And we want to make sure that, as a company, we help fulfill that TAM as well.”

    Let me translate that for you:

    Yes we definitely want to support the consumers, but hey look, the thing is, these data centers want to buy a lot of memory, and guess what, they’re willing to buy it in bulk even at a huge mark up! Like just think about that… We’re gonna make so much money!

    But uh, yeah uh, I feel you, that sucks bro and I appreciate you. But, dude, seriously, look at all this money! So yeah, stay strong guys, tweet about us! And don’t forget, if you want to be informed about the best memory deals, definitely sign up for our newsletter! Just put your email right in this field…

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      Yes we definitely want to support the consumers, but hey look, the thing is, these data centers want to buy a lot of memory, and guess what, they’re willing to buy it in bulk even at a huge mark up! Like just think about that… We’re gonna make so much money!

      To be fair I would not be mad if that was the response, It’s the pandering that get’s me fuming

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        Yeah, some honesty would be refreshing.

        Though to be fair, when that actually happens you know what we call that? “X company just said the quiet part out loud”.

        So yeah, there’s kinda no pleasing us either…