I’m currently on PopOS 22 and I’m in the mood to try something different. I mostly game but I do need my system to have support for the everyday tasks I sometimes need to do, so I fell bazzite is a no go.
I see a lot of people recommending Cachy, will it be a smooth experience for someone used to linux? Is Endeavour a better choice? Will I have issued with my PS3 eye camera and x52 stick?
I’ve been running EndeavourOS on my server for about 3 years, and on desktop for about 18 months. My DE is KDE plasma which is perfect for me, being similar to windows but customisable.
You can deploy the CachyOS performance tweaks and kernel to EndeavourOS if you fancy best of both. (See the CachyOS install guide).
Personally I prefer the barebones of EOS to something that has already made software choices for me.
I used Endeavor for a long time, then out of curiosity I put CachyOS on my laptop. On CachyOS, games seem to have been a shade faster, but that’s it. The updates got stuck after a while, the system kept running into some errors during the update process. Not to mention that after a while I always ran out of storage space on the hard drive, I had to manually delete the limine+btrfs backups, even though it was set that the last four could be max on the vinyon. So I switched from CachyOS back to Endeavor. I like the command line and its minimalism better.
I only use EndeavourOS and don’t speak by experience for CachyOS. While EndevaourOS is a more traditional Archlinux with some additional tools and GUI elements, and some branding, Cachy is a more optimized OS trying to squeezing out performance. I feel like EndeavourOS is a bit more minimal, bit more CLI oriented and is closer to original Archlinux. CachyOS is a bit more opinionated, has strong focus on performance optimizations and may come with a bit more pre-selected applications for a head start. At least this is my impression I get.
I game a lot on my EndeavourOS and its well suited for that case. On the other side, CachyOS will may have an edge on this point and is also well suited for everyday tasks.
Lot of people will recommend Cachy, because of the performance optimizations they do. These are metrics you can compare directly with benchmarks and “proof it scientifically”. However all the other differences are not that scientific to put into words and often are a taste and philosophy difference. Therefore I can’t say which one is better (even if I tested Cachy too). They just have different focus, building on the same foundation.
Cachyos is very user friendly. I moved from popos and love it.
100% of endeavor is using command line pacman for all your application installs and updates. They are like base arch with a wizard for installing. I installed them once in a work system and tried them for half a day before saying to myself “this isn’t worth it.”
Both are using arch, but cachyos has a much better curated set of bins for gaming for people who don’t want to pick and choose what things do what and really dig deep into custom repos and modules.
Cachyos has been rock solid for me too. Highly recommend limine for a bootloader with a btrfs partition so you can have btrfs snapshots that are easily recoverable (other loaders work, limine is just what I see recommended the most for it for some reason, I think I use systemd-boot for mine.)
Cachyos has a wiki with an install guide as well as a gaming section I highly recommend following.
Pop os bins are so out of date, I gained substantial performance and all the games I really had to fuck with to get working on pop 22/24 just fucking worked- no joke- on cachy. You don’t need to constantly update your proton versions either, cachyos keeps their one up to date as part of the distro and it’s already there in steam as an option if you install the gaming packages they have prepared with gamemode and other things.
You can’t just copy your home folder over. Arch does things differently than pop/ubuntu. You can however move over stuff to your new user folder bit by bit. My Firefox config went over and even kept my signed in sessions.
Anywho, your call on which to go with.
100% of endeavor is using command line pacman for all your application installs and updates.
This is not accurate by the way. It ships with its own Discovery app store too. I primarily use pacman/yay but some apps I use from Discovery that are installed as flatpaks. You could likely flip that and install most everything that way, it’s just not my preference.
Interesting, they don’t list it under package management.
Reinstalling with xfce this time to see how it looks. I swore all I had was pacman / yay.
I’m not sure, but they might be talking about Discover, the Plasma software installer. It doesn’t manage arch packages but can be used for flatpaks.
Yeah, I got my vm up and running to try it out. Because i’m on xfce I don’t even have that by default. For a second I thought I was crazy though lol.
They could install octopi or that one other alternative for a pacman gui, same as cachy has preinstalled. It’s fairly barebones though.
CachyOS has cachy-update which is still a terminal window for updates but has a tray config and will be there to let you know when stuff changes. I don’t remember where I saw it though, the updater tray wasn’t default.
eos-update seems similar on the surface and they have eos-update-notifier for a tray update notifier. After installing the thing though it’s anything but the same. It’s very user-unfriendly compared to cachy-update. I shouldn’t have to dig for a man page to configure an application with a gui presence (tray icon) imo but i’m being nitpicky.
Daily driving EndeavourOS for over a year, game daily with no issues. Command line updating isn’t a big deal, just
sudo pacman -Syu && yay -SyuAlias it or use a terminal like quake that disappears. If you want yay to just do it’s packages use -Sua instead.
My PS5 controller worked out of the box.
Bazzite is fine as a daily driver, just sayin.
Maybe it is, but almost every time someone does anything other than game they usually are steered away from it.
well it depends, what else would you do? browsing? gaming is the focus of bazzite but aside from that it is just immutable fedora
Mostly programming (when my day job hasn’t drained me of all the energy) and the usual stuff you’d only really do on a desktop and not on a phone, like documents, light image editing and spreadsheets, nothing fancy.
i program on bazzite-dx just fine no issues, in fact a lot of people dev on immutables because it encourages you to create proper containers for your code
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arch is dogshit 👼 yeah i wanna have shit randomly break on my computer that i need to do work on, yeah i wanna have to read a blog to make sure i dont update to the next version because people were having black screen issues 🙄
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