Does anyone actually find video games boring and a waste of time? And by extension gamification of anything is not a motivating drive? Every ADHD advice usually centres around some form of gamified strategy but to me this is flawed. How do you manage dopamine without it being gamified?

It’s very rare that I can find myself engaging with any video games these days and it’s usually down to a few reasons:

  • The gameplay is something that I recognise the mechanics of and feel like I’m playing something I’ve already played and once I recognise it there’s little reason to continue. Completion or challenge of the game is not a motivating factor to stick with it.

  • I have so many things that I need to be doing that I can’t even do and anything not on the list and video gaming is a waste of that time that could be going to literally anything else.

  • Narratives in games are… not that interesting. I usually find the balance between interactivity and story always off and any gameplay is either boring or the narrative is boring so one is always cancelling the other out, so “engaging” with a story is cumbersome and at that point I may as well watch a passive form of media.

  • Online multiplayer is rarely fun as I have little time to invest in being any good at a game to the level I can enjoy it. Usually the enjoyment comes from making other people’s lives miserable by beating them.

Oh and forget about achievements, they are just a bunch of todo items that I can’t process at all as they are either micro indicators of progress in the game and useless eg. You do literally nothing aside from play the game as intended and you get some achievement. Or it’s some ridiculous set of tasks that I get task paralysis by which in the end there’s zero reward for accomplishing so why bother.

  • bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
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    14 hours ago

    Look to play different games. Here are some examples:

    • Feather
    • Everything
    • What remains of Edith Finch?
    • The Stanley Parable
    • Journey of the broken circle
    • Gris
    • Superliminal
    • qube

    Couch Co-Op is also great

    • It takes Two
    • Snipperclips
    • Lots of Lego games
    • Super Mario 3D World
    • Luigi’s Mansion 3
    • Untitled Goose Game
    • Lovers in a dangerous Spacetime
    • Overcooked

    Gamification doesn’t work for me either for everyday tasks. What somewhat works is novelty, curiosity, creativity, and friendly company. Dance breaks and generally physical movement, intentional breathing, and making (silly) sounds is good to keep me going.

  • pHr34kY@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    You’ve perfectly described how I play games. The only time I play is when my friends do, and that’s just because I want to stay in the social loop. The game itself feels like a second job.

    Usually by the time I sit down to play, I’m so dog-tired that it feels forced.

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    18 hours ago

    I love playing video games, especially open world ones like Skyrim, BG3, AC, and the EE versions of Neverwinter and such. Or Divinity 2 couch coop with my husband. I cannot stand watching tv or movies on the other hand. I always feel like there’s something else I should be doing, whereas with games I am doing something. Tv is also like coffee to me, it wakes my brain up and I can’t sleep. All that being said I don’t play that often. Usually in bursts and then a different hobby takes my attention for a few days/weeks/months. I don’t mind the repetitive tasks/quests generally, it’s nice to have a set, familiar goal sometimes and then back to the storyline. I never play games online, I don’t want to be pressured or heaven forbid yelled at. I just want to wander about, pick some flowers, kill some dragons. You know? I am a bit of a completionist for maps and loot, don’t really care about the achievements though.

    I do agree with you on the gamification thing. It does nothing for me and just annoys me. Glad that it works for others though!

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    23 hours ago

    I’m in your boat.

    I don’t play anything anymore, basically. Even “nostalgia” doesn’t feel fun because the dopamine hit from figuring the mechanics/lore out has passed.


    My advice: co-op.

    Playing a cooperative game with mates is fun. As an example, I got into Baldurs Gate 3 with family; never would have gotten so engrossed without them, and it sped up combat.

    We started an Age of Wonders 4 game. One of them bounced off because it was too slow waiting for each other’s turns, but it was enough to get me engrossed with its systems and lore.


    As for real life?

    Gamification is a freaking menace.

    Organizer apps are great. Apps/reminders that beat you in the head are excellent. But I’ve had just about enough manipulation from my phone, thank you.

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    So, I live for progress indicators. Doesn’t sound as fun when you call them that, but unlocking that skill tree, looting better gear, leveling up, oh God how I love leveling up.

    I’m as old school as the term “beating the game”. Most games today pretty much push you along the storyline until you get to the end, but I was raised on that desire to beat the game. So, I ride it out to the end, collecting progress indicators the whole way.

    I just think it’s funny how we’ve ADHDed ourselves into opposite extremes.

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      I used to like this… but then my Ultimate Online shard went tits up and I lost everything years ago. Since then I don’t see the point to do something like that again because in the end the grind gets me nowhere in the real world. even my Pokémon Blue cartridge has lost it’s battery and my saves and work all gone.

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        What’s funny is that at some point in the past year or two, I’ve accepted that all the progress isn’t really worth anything, I’m just enjoying having something feed me that dopamine. I’ve been flipping through games like crazy and just moving on when I start to get stuck or bored.

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    When one breaks something down to its components, nothing is new under the sun. I used to feel the same about games several years ago (albeit a little more about story rather than gameplay), but I eventually I reframed that into familiar systems and stories being comfort food. Now I actively seek those things out. That way, I’m generally assured of some enjoyment at worst, and at best I find some fun ways developers are putting twists on frequently-used concepts. Some of my all-time favorites are games I’ve played only in the past few years.

    I also felt that way about time wasting, but once I started being more intentional and structured about my daily goal setting and time boxing my day, that went away. Now when I’m done for the day, I’m done for the day and I give myself permission to have downtime. Tangentially, Adderall also helped with this by giving me a hard physical signal to tell me I’m probably not going to get much more done for the rest of the day. Unfortunately, these days now I’m often too tired during the week. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    That said, I also don’t like achievements. It’s something I would have loved 30 years ago back when there was way less to play, but there’s too much choice now. I’d rather see what else is out there instead of spending time digging into something I’ve already seen most of. Feels like diminishing returns. Some people really get into it, though.

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      15 hours ago

      Yeah I guess overcoming task paralysis and getting momentum to completing daily IRL tasks through support and structure can make that space for more truely free time

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    My favourite type of game is turn based, with semi random/procedural generation of many elements of the gameplay, whether it be characters/map/team composition etc. The randomness is what lets me keep going and feeling like its new. The mechanics aren’t new, but the application is

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        Nope, boardgames are too “fixed”. Think more like X-com, turn based roguelikes, iron man crusader kings, deck builders where you can’t choose the same cards every game etc… ie, games where the rules and combinations are always changing, so you can learn the system, but you need to apply that knowledge each game, rather than just learning to hyper-optimise a specific strategy by repetition.

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          I’m not sure what you’re familiarity with board games is, but there are a lot out there that do exactly that. Might be worth looking into! There are digital versions of a ton that you can try on boardgamearena.com

          Not a sponsor, just a member.

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            20 hours ago

            Yeah, I’m familiar. I’ve got more hours wracked up on Rallyman GT than I want to admit, and I own a lot of boardgames!

            But I was talking about single player computer games, and didn’t want to complicate the analogy. Most board games only avoid the problems I was talking about, by dint of being multi player, and introducing the unpredictability factor through other people. But when we’re comparing single player computer games to board games, the analogy gets messy if the board games assume multiplayer. And I even acknowledge that there are single player board games that can scratch the itch (Final Girl, I’m looking at you), but for someone who doesn’t already play board games, it’s a big reach.

            But yeah, the length of that paragraph is why I just skipped over boardgames in my previous reply :)

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              Fair enough. You never know who thinks board games are just monopoly, but I’ll sit down and shut up now.

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    Dunno what types of games you check, but maybe pick something totally at random? Indies and old games may be interesting to add to the pool if you do it.

    Also, not on gaming per se, but if you’re too busy too constantly, please find some time to relax, else you could be burning yourself out.

    And on online multiplayer, usually the other players are my source of stress, specially on co-op as they don’t usually seem to know what they’re doing.

    And gaming helps me even when they are a bit bland because it’s a media I can interact with when consuming. Things like movies and music, I need a secondary activity to keep myself active.

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    My main problem is stress, the permanent feeling of “you have stuff to do” is ruining any immersion or fun.

    In any case, weed helps a lot.

    Sativa for actually doing stuff, indica for relaxing

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    Oddly enough I feel the same way about games now. I used to play a lot but haven’t touched anything in ages. I do however watch retrospectives about games every single night in bed.

    I have way more excitement now about listening about game development or retro game reviews/systems than I ever did about actually playing them.

    My daughter recently asked why I don’t play game if I listen/watch about them so much. I didn’t want to tell her that her growing up is a huge reason why, but it’s honestly the truth. I don’t have time to play anymore and that time is better doesn’t with her and furthermore the rewards for playing aren’t worth it but learning about it through these videos is somehow even more satisfying now.

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      Ah I love the Arstechnica War Stories series and hearing how they figured things out.

      I also at first didn’t get why people would watch someone else play games on stream but I watch edits now because they are the ones “wasting” the time and I’m just seeing the highlights of the fun stuff.

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        I still haven’t managed to get into watching play videos with the exception of a few crazy speed running vids. Some of those guys are crazy talented. My obsession actually started with a speed runner doing a documentary type video about Tetris finally being beaten. It was terribly interesting. Couldn’t believe I watched a 2 hour video about a game I never even played. It was by summoning salt if anyone is curious.