You don’t own a game. You own a license to use the game. You don’t own the code or the images or the files. End of story. You don’t get to use those files and images to make something else and sell it. The mod wouldn’t work without the game - there’d be nothing to display in VR. When you mod you are directly using the work produced by others and adding in top of that. Modding exists because companies allow it. Part of that allowance is not being a dick, which this modder 100% was. They didn’t even tell him to take it down, just make donations optional and he threw a hissy fit an refused.
Yeah, there’s plenty of nuance. Nuance showing that the modder is a jackass. Should I remind you this modder did THE EXACT SAME thing with Rockstar as well already.
This guy is just a tool trying to make as much money as he can before moving to another game and doing the same, rinse and repeat. He’s a scammer and a grifter.
When you say he “did the same thing” with rockstar. What do you think he did?
The mod is for 35 games, yes one other company decided to remove their game from the mod, and luke ross immediately did so… it took about a week of work to remove it while he locked down access to the mod suite at his own expense, sure he grumbled that it was a dumb move from rockstar but we all hoped maybe it meant rockstar was considering their own VR port so it made sense. But they didn’t.
What do I mean? He sold the same mod as a “Rockstar VR mod” behind his shittly little paywall and then their lawyers had to send him a cease and desist for that. And he whined like a little baby then too. He didn’t learn his lesson then and he hasn’t learned his lesson now because this is a cash grab, not an attempt to break into the industry or anything traditionally respected modders aim for.
Look, just because you’re too retarded to understand he broke laws, doesn’t mean he didn’t break laws.
Where does all that rage of yours comes from ? You pay for the time of the guy to package the shit. You don’t need to, you can yourself build the mod pack… time and convenience is a product in itself.
If missing turns into a paid industry then game companies will start cracking down on it, because then it becomes profit based on their work that they didn’t earn.
Whereas now when it’s free, it’s just passion projects by hobbyists who really like their game. It boosts their sales but it’s not like there’s extra money to be made in licensing deals.
If you allow what this guy was doing, you pervert that. It becomes an industry. It becomes competition. And it sets a legal precedent that if you let one guy get away with keeping all the money he makes, no one else needs to be held to that standard.
That’s even harder to understand than OP… how is retribution for someone’s time your problem ? Or even the game editor’s problem ?
It’s not like he’s infringing on any IP either since the editor is still selling the game to start with.
And if you are so spririted you can mod on your free time the same functionality can’t you so free it is for you…
You know that building on someone else’s work isn’t necessarily a bad thing right? Entire industries are doing « integration » work which is literally building on top of other’s work to achieve increased functionality. And that’s only in IT… and the legitimacy is very juridiction dependent as well so don’t bring legality into the debate too soon ;-)
Are you having ethical issues with the practice maybe? Do you believe you should get anything for free in software ?
You don’t own a game. You own a license to use the game. You don’t own the code or the images or the files. End of story. You don’t get to use those files and images to make something else and sell it. The mod wouldn’t work without the game - there’d be nothing to display in VR. When you mod you are directly using the work produced by others and adding in top of that. Modding exists because companies allow it. Part of that allowance is not being a dick, which this modder 100% was. They didn’t even tell him to take it down, just make donations optional and he threw a hissy fit an refused.
Yeah, there’s plenty of nuance. Nuance showing that the modder is a jackass. Should I remind you this modder did THE EXACT SAME thing with Rockstar as well already.
This guy is just a tool trying to make as much money as he can before moving to another game and doing the same, rinse and repeat. He’s a scammer and a grifter.
Fuck him.
Pretty harsh, and pretty correct.
When you say he “did the same thing” with rockstar. What do you think he did?
The mod is for 35 games, yes one other company decided to remove their game from the mod, and luke ross immediately did so… it took about a week of work to remove it while he locked down access to the mod suite at his own expense, sure he grumbled that it was a dumb move from rockstar but we all hoped maybe it meant rockstar was considering their own VR port so it made sense. But they didn’t.
Is that what a jerk does?
I think you have no idea what luke ross does.
What do I mean? He sold the same mod as a “Rockstar VR mod” behind his shittly little paywall and then their lawyers had to send him a cease and desist for that. And he whined like a little baby then too. He didn’t learn his lesson then and he hasn’t learned his lesson now because this is a cash grab, not an attempt to break into the industry or anything traditionally respected modders aim for.
Look, just because you’re too retarded to understand he broke laws, doesn’t mean he didn’t break laws.
Confirmed, you have no idea what luke ross does. You read one uninformed headline, and then read another uninformed headline.
Where does all that rage of yours comes from ? You pay for the time of the guy to package the shit. You don’t need to, you can yourself build the mod pack… time and convenience is a product in itself.
If missing turns into a paid industry then game companies will start cracking down on it, because then it becomes profit based on their work that they didn’t earn.
Whereas now when it’s free, it’s just passion projects by hobbyists who really like their game. It boosts their sales but it’s not like there’s extra money to be made in licensing deals.
If you allow what this guy was doing, you pervert that. It becomes an industry. It becomes competition. And it sets a legal precedent that if you let one guy get away with keeping all the money he makes, no one else needs to be held to that standard.
That’s even harder to understand than OP… how is retribution for someone’s time your problem ? Or even the game editor’s problem ?
It’s not like he’s infringing on any IP either since the editor is still selling the game to start with.
And if you are so spririted you can mod on your free time the same functionality can’t you so free it is for you…
You know that building on someone else’s work isn’t necessarily a bad thing right? Entire industries are doing « integration » work which is literally building on top of other’s work to achieve increased functionality. And that’s only in IT… and the legitimacy is very juridiction dependent as well so don’t bring legality into the debate too soon ;-)
Are you having ethical issues with the practice maybe? Do you believe you should get anything for free in software ?