“Israel’s far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich has ordered preparations for the annexation of the occupied West Bank ahead of US President-elect Donald Trump taking office in January 2025.”

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      I mean, aren’t they? The only real difference I can see between Kamala and Trump on Palestine is that Kamala prefers a more respectable version of genocide. She supports genocide, but she just wants it to be done slowly and quietly. Trump is on board with a fast and overt genocide. Their policies lead to the same outcome; Trump is just a lot more honest about it.

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        Harris promised to do everything in her power to end the war in Gaza.

        “This year has been difficult, given the scale of death and destruction in Gaza and given the civilian casualties and displacement in Lebanon, it is devastating. And as president, I will do everything in my power to end the war in Gaza, to bring home the hostages, end the suffering in Gaza, ensure Israel is secure, and ensure the Palestinian people can realise their right to dignity, freedom, security and self-determination,” Harris said to applause during a rally in East Lansing city of Michigan, home to 200,000 Arab Americans.

        https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/4/harris-says-will-end-gaza-war-in-final-election-appeal-to-arab-americans

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        Jesus h. Chist, you ARE the problem in the room. You and people like you.

        Had kamela won she could have doubled down in Israel. If not, mass protests could have pushed her. Something, anything could have been done. Hell, even if nothing was done, at least the worst impulses would have been constrained. Now, because of smug assholes like you, the US will likely become a dictatorship, the US likely will pull out of NATO and the entire fucking world will become a much, much dangerous place to live in. Forget about internal policies that will make racism and discrimination against anyone slightly different okay again, this shit affects the whole goddamn world. People like you ate the reason why a Jesus-will-come-back-if-we-end-the-world cult is now in possession of nukes.

        Oh, and Palestine is absolutely fucked now.expect it to simply and completely disappear, you are the reason why so many men, women and children will be slaughtered

        Thank you!

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          Had kamela won she could have doubled down in Israel.

          This is ridiculous nonsense. Why would she. The Harris campaign ran on the strategy that she could ignore the voices of Palestinians and their allies during the most vulnerable time for her. Why would she do anything if she was delivered into power. The whole point of her doing that was to prove that she didn’t need support from the antigenocide crowd. Why do you believe she would do anything if we gave her power. All the leverage is gone at that point. You are being delusional.

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            Harris COULD have cracked down on Israel.

            Trump will guaranteed murder the Palestinians because he has already said so

            If you don’t see that difference them get glasses

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              Harris COULD have cracked down on Israel.

              Utter nonsense. If she didn’t crack down during the election when voters had maximum leverage on her. She is simply not going to crack down if she was given office when the amount of leverage voters have is dramatically lower. Literally read my comment again, it couldn’t be clearer.

              When it comes to killing Palestinians there is broad bipartisan support in America. If this is the issue that you vote on, amongst the two major parties they are essentially the same. One will look kind of concerned while signing away bombs and missiles to do the killing, the other will laugh with glee while doing the same. You have no option to not send the bombs and missiles and that’s the only thing that really matters.

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    Narrowing down the options to apartheid/genocide and the abolition of the Jewish character of Israel. In other words killing off the last vestiges of a non-fascist version of Zionism that a “small Israel” could allow.

    So, liberal Zionists: which side are you on?

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      Dude I gave up the moment I heard on the radio that the fucker killed Rabin. If you want to live in Zion move to New York.

      …also, to the rest of the thread: If you think the US election was decided on Israel, please go outside and touch grass. Talk to people. You know, those flesh-and blood things usually found within metal containers on rubber circles that you rarely interact with. Ask them. Practically nobody in the US gives a fuck, and especially not enough of a fuck for it to be the #1 cause of things.

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          Legit. Fuck Israel. Fuck Zionism. Fuck apartheid. Fuck the genocide of Palestinians. But also fuck antisemitism.

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            It really is interesting to see how quickly seemingly normal folk fall into anti semitism the moment a group of Jewish folk do something terrible. It’s like they think that because we are shutting on a state that claims to be a Jewish ethno state that it’s valid to shit talk the entire race and religion.

            Insidious really.