• Bizzle@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Overpopulation is a eugenicist talking point. In reality we have more than enough food and shelter for everyone, but our exploitative global order conspires to keep people hungry and broke. Be mad, of course, but be mad about unfettered capitalism instead of the overpopulation Boogeyman.

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      In reality we have more than enough food and shelter for everyone, but our exploitative global order conspires to keep people hungry and broke.

      As a diehard scientific facts person, ‘Global Warming’ & diversity disappearing through other non-companion & non-our species Beings going into extinction & ‘Overpopulation’ has to be dealt with, as everything is interconnected & ‘Overpopulation has huge bonds, if The Living Earth & All Living Beings, including us are going survive the threat of extinction. & I agree with that part of your reply, but substitute global order with ‘Capitalist’ or should I now be using ‘Feudalist’!

      The reason I disagree is right in my description of myself- diversity disappearing through other non-companion & non-our species Beings going into extinction & ‘Overpopulation’ has to be dealt with, as everything is interconnected & ‘Overpopulation has huge bonds, if The Living Earth & All Living Beings, including us are going survive the threat of extinction.

      Far, far & far too many members of our modern & 1st world people are only caring about OUR SPECIES & IT’S Survival! If that was not true then the above would never be happening at record speed. As my username here says, I put myself on the line for other Beings’ Rights, including the Right to survive. Thus too many people in the world & even worst affect too many people in areas of this world, ‘Overdensity’ are also the problems! Your (& plenty others, would dangerously guess a major of our species) lack of caring about that also dooms all The Living Earth & All Living Beings & is a former of greediness!

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        No one has ever accused me of not caring about other beings, this is a watershed moment for me…

        So real quick a little bit of background on me, I’m actually really active in my community, doing things like prairie restoration/maintenance and teaching regenerative gardening workshops. I DO care about biodiversity. I care about it so much that I spend my free time promoting it. We agree on that, biodiversity including everything from soil biology to blue whales is really important.

        Where we differ I believe is this misanthropic notion of how to protect that diversity. Rather than eugenics I think we should be using regenerative techniques in agriculture and preserving natural order, which could be balanced with current populations if- and only if- we reign in capitalism. I’d call it feudalism even, our system now, we agree on that too. I just don’t think drastically shrinking the human population is the only play.

        I do want to ask, though, if the only answer is shrinking the population, how do you suppose that would happen? The middle step between the dystopia were currently in and your vision of the future.