Just giggled as my last meme mentioned trouble with displays and appropriately, a large chunk of the replies were “well MY displays work just fine!” (And charmingly, many were thoughts of things to check, other distros etc. It’s a very kind community, though that may also be the fediverse.)

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    Yeah, let everyone do their own thing - there’s nothing wrong with starting with Slackware if you want to. But if we’re going to recommend a starting point to people, maybe go with something that is designed to work out of the box. There’s going to be so much else to get adjusted to that extra options aren’t necessary.

    Oh, and by the way, most people don’t like tinkering. They want their car to take them from A to B and their computer to do the thing, it’s not a hobby for them and we shouldn’t expect new users to be looking for a new hobby.

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      we shouldn’t expect new users to be looking for a new hobby.

      Infinitely this!

      Yes, it’s super cool to have control over your own damned machine but for some, the computer is just the thing the lets them work, porn and game.

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      I run slack, alpine, freebsd, deb and mint for the gui testing on various servers personally and professionally.

      I recommend kubuntu.

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        Thank you

        I have a recommendation for your recommendations. There’s KDE Neon which is distributed by the KDE project, which is Ubuntu-based. That’s what I personally run, now that I really don’t have the time/energy to tinker.

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          I think a verrrrrrry very large part of the problem is that the most vocal linux proselytisers have never actually had to do a job (or have, but done it very badly) where you have to tailor to the client.

          Rookie mistake.

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      Hmm, when a car has problems, you go to someone who fixes that for you. People under 60 usually don’t do that for PCs.

      I don’t recommend Arch to newbies, but I do prefer it because it’s more robust: other distros patch stuff to make it easier, but those patches mean things are farther from the tested upstream version. Arch doesn’t do that as much so I run into fewer bugs.

      But this view might be outdated. I just remember that before 2017 (when I installed my current Arch system) I constantly had problems with dist-upgrades in Ubuntu

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        No you’re probably right, I’ve had my Ubuntu-based distro act up after upgrades, and I actually find it more random now than what it used to be like in the 2010s. My feeling is that Debian/Arch are better in this regard, and most newbies don’t actually need bleeding-edge patches.