Literally just explained the difference. Not valuing someone’s opinion is not the same as saying that they must be lying about what they believe because nobody could ever possibly just believe different things from you.
It’s fine if you want to make a distinction, but the pairing along with the outright dismissiveness is precisely what I mean, though. Being dismissive because of branding someone a label is my point, even though the person they were referring to is not liberal–me.
I’m not going to assume that they’re paid actors in some secret conspiracy who don’t really believe a word of what they’re saying
I’m not about to go hunt down a links from a year ago on a banned account in some other instance I abhor, or comb through petty nonsense to find examples for you. You can believe me or not, I don’t mind, and I will do the same. Besides, you already stated that if someone looks like a lib you’re gonna call it a lib “even if they deny the label”, and that’s what I mean about these personal attacks.
Sorry, but I’m not going to take the word of someone who once said, “I love Donald Trump because he reminds me of Hitler, who did nothing wrong.” Now, I definitely saw you say that once, but I’m not going to comb through a bunch of petty nonsense to find the link to it.
Besides, you already stated that if someone looks like a lib you’re gonna call it a lib “even if they deny the label”, and that’s what I mean about these personal attacks.
Again, I already explained the distinction. I never said that “tankies” won’t write off the opinions of people they don’t respect (everyone does this, as I explained with the example of an obvious fascist), what I’ve said is that we don’t deny that you believe the things you say you do, that you secretly believe something else, the thing that you just explicitly claimed to have seen but can’t provide a single example of.
So your answer to me replying in good faith is to double down and reply in bad faith to drive a petty point because I refuse to do some fool’s errand for you? Yeah, that’s not gonna fly.
I already explained the distinction
You can have your distinction but I’m not making one. I’m not operating under that framework you setup. I’m saying something one thing and you’re trying to shoehorn in the conversation into some other thing.
You can have your distinction but I’m not making one. I’m not operating under that framework you setup. I’m saying something one thing and you’re trying to shoehorn in the conversation into some other thing.
For anyone following along, the original claim was, “I don’t understand the constant liberal need to assume everyone who disagrees with you is acting in bad faith,” and they responded “I see the same behavior with tankies,” then went on to talk about a completely different behavior and are now trying to pretend that that other behavior was the thing being discussed and not a completely irrelevant tangent they brought up to draw a false comparison.
I made it perfectly clear what kind of dismissive attacks I meant and even gave examples of I was talking about which you admitted to perpetrating, but you’re here splitting hairs and making petty demands so that you come out clean as if I care. And now you’re rewriting a thread from your POV in an attempt to win over people by insulting their intelligence while you’re thirsting for some insignificant victory in an inconsequential thread. Amusingly weird behavior, if you ask me. lol
Literally just explained the difference. Not valuing someone’s opinion is not the same as saying that they must be lying about what they believe because nobody could ever possibly just believe different things from you.
It’s fine if you want to make a distinction, but the pairing along with the outright dismissiveness is precisely what I mean, though. Being dismissive because of branding someone a label is my point, even though the person they were referring to is not liberal–me.
I’m glad you don’t, but that’s not what I saw.
If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.
I’m not about to go hunt down a links from a year ago on a banned account in some other instance I abhor, or comb through petty nonsense to find examples for you. You can believe me or not, I don’t mind, and I will do the same. Besides, you already stated that if someone looks like a lib you’re gonna call it a lib “even if they deny the label”, and that’s what I mean about these personal attacks.
Sorry, but I’m not going to take the word of someone who once said, “I love Donald Trump because he reminds me of Hitler, who did nothing wrong.” Now, I definitely saw you say that once, but I’m not going to comb through a bunch of petty nonsense to find the link to it.
Again, I already explained the distinction. I never said that “tankies” won’t write off the opinions of people they don’t respect (everyone does this, as I explained with the example of an obvious fascist), what I’ve said is that we don’t deny that you believe the things you say you do, that you secretly believe something else, the thing that you just explicitly claimed to have seen but can’t provide a single example of.
So your answer to me replying in good faith is to double down and reply in bad faith to drive a petty point because I refuse to do some fool’s errand for you? Yeah, that’s not gonna fly.
You can have your distinction but I’m not making one. I’m not operating under that framework you setup. I’m saying something one thing and you’re trying to shoehorn in the conversation into some other thing.
And, as I’ve already explained, I won’t.
We’ve run our course. Good day.
For anyone following along, the original claim was, “I don’t understand the constant liberal need to assume everyone who disagrees with you is acting in bad faith,” and they responded “I see the same behavior with tankies,” then went on to talk about a completely different behavior and are now trying to pretend that that other behavior was the thing being discussed and not a completely irrelevant tangent they brought up to draw a false comparison.
I made it perfectly clear what kind of dismissive attacks I meant and even gave examples of I was talking about which you admitted to perpetrating, but you’re here splitting hairs and making petty demands so that you come out clean as if I care. And now you’re rewriting a thread from your POV in an attempt to win over people by insulting their intelligence while you’re thirsting for some insignificant victory in an inconsequential thread. Amusingly weird behavior, if you ask me. lol
Again, general “dismissiveness” is not what the conversation was ever about. Everyone dismisses certain viewpoints, I never disputed that.