I find far more nuance on Hexbear regarding Leftist topics, at least in my experience. The average Hexbear user is more likely to have read theory, be it Anarchist or Marxist, than most other instances, so that baseline really helps elevate what kinds of conversations are had.
China is a democracy. It is not a liberal democracy, where multiple parties compete, but a Socialist democracy. You can watch a quick video from Chinese state media on how it functions, or how elections work. Over 90% of Chinese citizens approve of their government, and the majority believes they have a democratic impact on policy, at a higher rate than the US.
Easy to hit 90% when people are killed for not approving of the government. You support the tanks in this image.
I stand by what I said in that comment. You should read the Harvard study I linked in that comment:
We find that first, since the start of the survey in 2003, Chinese citizen satisfaction with government has increased virtually across the board. From the impact of broad national policies to the conduct of local town officials, Chinese citizens rate the government as more capable and effective than ever before. Interestingly, more marginalized groups in poorer, inland regions are actually comparatively more likely to report increases in satisfaction. Second, the attitudes of Chinese citizens appear to respond (both positively and negatively) to real changes in their material well-being, which suggests that support could be undermined by the twin challenges of declining economic growth and a deteriorating natural environment.
There’s simply no evidence of the CPC using intimidation to secure their overwhelmingly high approval rates. Both Occam’s Razor and real polling data seem to suggest that the support for the government is most closely linked to how much the government does for people, which can help explain why rural areas tend to support the CPC more, as they were the primary targets of the extreme poverty eradication program.
I really don’t think you’ve made an effort to try to understand China, and I don’t even mean the government. Why should you be able to decide what’s best for Chinese people, when they clearly support their system and believe it works for their interests? This is the kind of Western Exceptionalist chauvanism that plagues the English-speaking internet.
Further, Tian’anmen and the June 4th incident were never a part of that discussion, so you are clearly trying to add an emotional element to the argument.
Gotcha, when you can’t actually respond to logic when you insult someone, you pivot to using a vaguely racist caricature. Checks out for someone whining about Marxists.
No, I’m pointing out that government oppression of the Chinese population when they criticize the government is still in full swing by showing a recent example.
It’s usually non-Chinese people that use the Pooh caricature (huh, wonder why?), and again, that doesn’t change that the overwhelming majority of Chinese citizens do support their government. Check the study I linked, public opinion is most closely linked to real material well-being, like Upward Mobility:
There is a good deal of criticism for the CPC, a lot of it is coming from younger generations that want to accelerate the progression of Socialism. This isn’t censored, but what is usually censored is when right-wing, Western media tries to propagandize. In reality, things are improving, so more Chinese citizens are satisfied, and take an active role in building up their country.
I find far more nuance on Hexbear regarding Leftist topics, at least in my experience. The average Hexbear user is more likely to have read theory, be it Anarchist or Marxist, than most other instances, so that baseline really helps elevate what kinds of conversations are had.
Hey everybody, this tankie finds hexbear users nuanced!
You really don’t notice what you’re doing, do you 🤣
I know exactly what I’m doing.
Red Scare anti-communist witch hunting? Are you related to McCarthy, by any chance?
If by “tankie” you mean Marxist, then yes.
No, I mean tankie.
This is you: https://lemmy.ml/comment/17634182 (https://lemmy.world/post/27462282/16133562)
Easy to hit 90% when people are killed for not approving of the government. You support the tanks in this image.
Gotcha, you mean Marxist.
I stand by what I said in that comment. You should read the Harvard study I linked in that comment:
There’s simply no evidence of the CPC using intimidation to secure their overwhelmingly high approval rates. Both Occam’s Razor and real polling data seem to suggest that the support for the government is most closely linked to how much the government does for people, which can help explain why rural areas tend to support the CPC more, as they were the primary targets of the extreme poverty eradication program.
I really don’t think you’ve made an effort to try to understand China, and I don’t even mean the government. Why should you be able to decide what’s best for Chinese people, when they clearly support their system and believe it works for their interests? This is the kind of Western Exceptionalist chauvanism that plagues the English-speaking internet.
Further, Tian’anmen and the June 4th incident were never a part of that discussion, so you are clearly trying to add an emotional element to the argument.
Gotcha, when you can’t actually respond to logic when you insult someone, you pivot to using a vaguely racist caricature. Checks out for someone whining about Marxists.
No, I’m pointing out that government oppression of the Chinese population when they criticize the government is still in full swing by showing a recent example.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China
It’s usually non-Chinese people that use the Pooh caricature (huh, wonder why?), and again, that doesn’t change that the overwhelming majority of Chinese citizens do support their government. Check the study I linked, public opinion is most closely linked to real material well-being, like Upward Mobility:
There is a good deal of criticism for the CPC, a lot of it is coming from younger generations that want to accelerate the progression of Socialism. This isn’t censored, but what is usually censored is when right-wing, Western media tries to propagandize. In reality, things are improving, so more Chinese citizens are satisfied, and take an active role in building up their country.
“Chinese man looks yellow” is not helping your cause
That isn’t the point of the meme, dipshit.
Also, Pooh is a brownish orange.
The meme has no context or explanation, I just assumed it was a racist caricature
Have you ever actually been friends with someone who lived in China most of their life?
Oh no, not muh Tinyman Square! We authoritarians are so owned! That guy totes got squished by the tank.
You can even see it in this video.
Hex is more than tankies. While they seem to be very vocal, there’s more to the site than that.