• yeehaw@lemmy.ca
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      17 hours ago

      Grumble. Proton is great, but let’s not pretend Lord Gaben did it all, proton is built on top of wine.

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        14 hours ago

        Yes and before valve got involved gaming on wine was a hit and miss (mostly a miss). Whereas now basically 100% of the games i play just work with no to minimal tinkering. They put in a lot of effort to get all the kinks out. And steam input is also a huge factor in this. Downplaying their involvement is akin to downplaying wine’s achievements because it’s built on top of linux.

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          7 hours ago

          I’m not downplaying proton, proton is great and I use it a lot, but when people tout proton and how awesome it is, wine is downplayed. Wine has been a huge project for years and years.

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        19 hours ago

        I mean ms killed off mixed reality (windows vr headsets) in latest win11. So I’ve got a useless headset now 🙃

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          Can you get it to work? Absolutely. However, you will have more framerate drops and glitchy graphics than in windows, and framerate drops in VR are 1000x worse than in non-VR because they make you motionsick as hell

          Direct quote from the link you posted:

          SteamVR

          The de facto standard for anything PCVR, SteamVR runs on Linux.

          Unfortunately the Linux version is riddled with bugs, missing features and bad performace, so in general it can be a subpar experience.

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        Wine definitely deserves credit but without Valve’s support of Proton, Linux still wouldn’t be viable for most gaming.

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        Meh, I’m fine not playing games that require kernel level access to my system to prevent cheating, or games by devs that are able to set the anticheat to allow Linux users to play but just don’t.

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          17 hours ago

          If my device is dedicated to just games, sure, otherwise they can pound sand. Take a look around the world today. You think an org is just going to be like “ya this is for anti-cheat” and stop there? I laugh.

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            17 hours ago

            That’s true, I suppose. I hadn’t really put that in the front of my mind, but none of my devices that are strictly for gaming are capable of running pc games. And all my PCs are multi-purpose, work, creative and gaming. So while that applies to me as well, I think even if I did have like a SteamDeck that was just for gaming but potentially capable of running other more “productivity” oriented programs, that specific scenario still wouldn’t really be at the forefront of my mind.
            Like…Valve is still an American company, and they can still be coerced by the government to put shady stuff into say the Steam app, or into SteamOS.
            Gotta wonder if maybe we should all just go back to monkee 🐒. Smash all our tech and live in a tree.