• umami_wasabi@lemmy.ml
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      Really? Let me try.

      Hong Kong isn’t part of China. Taiwan is an independent country.

      Edit: oh, this community is in lemmy.world, not lemmy.ml. Still, for those disgruntled, report me for rule 2 & 6. I want to see how mods respond to this.

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          Tibet emerged as one of countless warlord states in the chaos following the fall of the Qing, it never received international recognition and is recognized as part of China and claimed by the ROC (Taiwan). In the period when it was autonomous, it was ruled by a slaveowning theocracy with an average life expectancy in the 30’s. Whipping, mutilation, and amputation were common punishments and poverty and starvation were rampant, with people frequently having to sell their kids for food. The monks and lamas, meanwhile, lived on the backs of the people in extravagant mansions with thousands of servants.

          “Free Tibet” is essentially just “The South Will Rise Again” with extra steps.

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            If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.

            I am requesting that link in lieu of an image macro

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              For the record, that line is more in reference to people talking about things that allegedly happened on the fediverse, like, “I saw such and such user say X.”

              Here is a detailed account of what Tibet was like with sources. If there’s a specific claim that you’d like me to clarify or back up, I’d be happy to.

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            The slavery enjoyers are not happy with me, it seems. If only downvotes had the power to change historical facts.

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            let’s assume that statement is true, let’s take the words of an anonymous internaut for truth :

            CIA paid Taliban too, i remember reading. Does that make Taliban too just propaganda?

            U.S. sponsored and sponsors many movements around the globe as long as their goals align. That money alone can’t invalidate the cause.

            Like, on the contrary, U.S. sponsorship can’t validate a cause either.

            i remember unsubscribing from political communities, why the heck am i responding to this comment at this hour. Completely futile! Will it change your mind? Do i really care what you will think about Tibet tomorrow?

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              U.S. sponsored and sponsors many movements around the globe as long as their goals align. That money alone can’t invalidate the cause.

              USSC declares money is speech. You not only agree, but go further that money is truth. Naziism and Islamist fascism is truth. Democracy, and political power, is much cheaper in smaller countries made less stable with US extortion and war. Navalny caught on video soliciting MI6 for funding to destabilize Russia. Hong Kong media mogul fomenting protests because of Americas values.

              The US empire’s values are extortion, control, puppetry, and war whitewashed/described with a facade of liberal freedom. Every country is to be a pawn for the empire to the detriment of their population. The political establishment’s disdain for Americans provides no valid expectation for the empire to promote humanism elsewhere. Just propaganda.