Person 1: “Israel and Palestine have both done some horrid things to each other and deprived each other of basic needs. That isn’t something where genocide comes to mind.”

Person 2: “What Israel is doing to Palestine is genocide though.”

Person 1: “It’s a war crime. Not all war crimes are a genocide. Certain criteria have to be fulfilled for that. Similar to how not all mass shootings are acts of terrorism. Are you really dedicating a whole confrontation just to debate semantics?”

Person 2: Provides links to Amnesty International

Person 1: “I’m going by dictionary definitions, not what a certain biased organization says. I wouldn’t deny both of the organizations you mention there are biased. But the dictionary isn’t. Suppose you are right and the ADL is biased and controlled “by Zionism” (which sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory). What does that make the Snopes organization? What does that make the literal 50% of America who doesn’t disagree with the ADL? What does that make the people who call it a double standard that so many people are willing to support murder of one kind but not another, or that intentions matter sometimes but not all the time?”

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    This is the dictionary definition:

    the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group

    And this is a quote from Israel’s Defence Minister, Yoav Gallant:

    We will eliminate everything - they will regret it

    He also said:

    We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly

    And here’s a quote from Amit Halevi, a Likud member in parliament:

    There should be two goals for this victory: One, there is no more Muslim land in the land of Israel … After we make it the land of Israel, Gaza should be left as a monument, like Sodom

    Those are just some examples that I could find with a quick search, but they clearly show a will to perform a deliberate and systematic destruction of the Palestine people. Therefore since they act on those wishes I would definitely define it as a genocide.

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      Natanuaho compared palestinians to amalek. The idf soldiers on the ground was cought shouting it and the human right reports show that they do it as a policy and currently happening.

      Only nazis and zionists has such a clear intent