I’ve been using Pop!_OS for a few years now, and it’s worked like a dream. Everything works out-of-the-box, and gaming on Linux has never been easier. But it almost works a little too well. Learning Linux as opposed to Windows for all my games was a fun challenge.
But, now that I’m familiar with how to set up any game that needs a little help besides Proton, I’m starting to want to delve into my OS more to see what I can customize, and I think picking a new distro with slightly different architechture will be very nice.
Don’t get me wrong, I still want something that works by itself more often than not. But I would love to have something a little more cutting-edge that gives me a little more control.
I started with Linux by installing Kubuntu, and I really miss KDE Plasma. I know Kubuntu is still on Plasma 5, and I’ve been wanting to find a distro that lets me use Plasma 6.
I’ve narrowed my choices down to three distros: Nobara, Garuda, and Bazzite.
So far, I’ve confirmed that Nobara and Garuda come with Plasma 6, but I haven’t found that information for Bazzite yet.
So, what do you think about these distros? What are the pros and cons for you?
I’m leaning the most toward Garuda - but I’m worried Arch may be TOO big of a leap. I really just learned that Fedora is not Arch-based, so I know Garuda will be a bit of the odd one out of the three.
TL;DR: Nobara, Garuda, Bazzite - which one is good and do any suck?
EDIT:
Thanks, everyone, for the insightful and helpful comments! From what everyone has said, I’ve come to find that either CachyOS or Solus will fit my needs best.
CachyOS seems optimized for gaming, while Solus’ curated rolling releases seem (to my untrained eye at least) to be somewhat of a step between the way Debian-based distros upgrade and the way Arch-based distros upgrade.
I’d love to hear people’s experiences with both of these! I think I’m going to try to dual-boot them and see what setup looks like for both.😄
Fam, did I understand you correctly that you want to tinker/tweak/customize the system to your heart’s content? Yet, you also wish that the system “just works”. At least, mostly. Is that right? Or…, like could you perhaps be more clear on what it is you’d like to tinker/tweak/customize in the first place? Please, if possible, be explicit.
After I got a better idea on what it actually is that you seek, I’ll try to answer your other(/remaining) questions.
No worries! Others have piped in with suggestions and I’ve found a distro that I think will work for me!
I suppose that’s fine, and please feel free to act however way you wish.
The fact remains, however, that no one actually delved into the essence of the matter.
Furthermore, I find it rather troublesome that you deflected the question rather than answering it head-on. Perhaps you didn’t think it through yet, and are just waiting to be swayed by whoever advertises best.
To illustrate my point, would you (at least) be so kind to explain me where/why Fedora has lost your favor? While, on the other hand, what Solus provides (in contrast) to justify your interest in it?
Do you think I am using this thread and this thread alone as my only source of information on these distros? I’m crowdsourcing opinions and checking them against the documentation for the distros and my personal preferences.
I feel as though this thread has delved into the essence of the matter perfectly well. That matter being, of course, people’s opinions on the three distros I laid out. I deflected your question because you are looking to pick my brain and start an in-depth discussion, but I’ve reached a point in my research where I’m comfortable making a choice without any more guidance.
And, well, idk, I feel like my statements indicated I was looking for a good middle ground between a stable system that works smoothly and something I can crack open and break while tweaking - for the learning experience. I suppose that would really just boil down to fixed vs rolling release distros.
Fedora has lost my favor due to being a fixed release distro. After CachyOS was brought to my attention, and I researched it a little bit, it seemed to fit my desires pretty well. It’s optimized for speed, which is perfect for games, and it’s rolling release so I still get to feel like an uber haxx0r. Nothing against Fedora, it seems great. I want something a little further from my comfort zone.
Solus is appealing to me because it isn’t based on anything else, and I love that it’s a small team. Plus, the weekly updates thing they do felt like a good middle ground between how Debian-based and Arch-based distros work in terms of updating. But, I think I’ll stick with CachyOS for now, I’m excited to use Arch btw.
First of all, thank you for that response!
No, I don’t think that. I’d even challenge that notion as your query didn’t start with a simple “What’s best?” but instead asked for a comparison between three distros that were (somehow) selected by you. Please feel free to enlighten me on what made you even consider the premise of your above question. Though, as this is not that important to begin with, it’s also perfectly fine to ignore that 👍.
If you lay it out like that, then; yeah, surely. However, it seems we fundamentally differ on what the essence of the matter is. And, perhaps I’m at fault for thinking this is a beneficial exercise to begin with. Regardless, I feel I at least owe you an explanation that goes over where I’m coming from:
Fundamentally, literally none of your original three distros serve you well for the purposes of “I’m starting to want to delve into my OS more to see what I can customize”. Each one is pretty opinionated (by default[1]) and -heck- both Bazzite and Nobara come with (highly) specialized tools required for system maintenance. This is because they’ve identified that there’s a very serious disconnect between the freedom they’d like to allow their users and the (otherwise almost insurmountable) complexity this adds to how upgrades are managed. Bazzite trusts Fedora Atomic’s tooling for this, while Nobara has created their own.
Being (highly) opinionated isn’t necessarily bad. But it’s undeniably easier to tweak/tinker/configure a more minimal system. Hence, you’re better served by a lean install (with sane defaults). Thankfully, community members either recognized this and tried to sway you towards other options. With success*. Or, you were able to discern distros that better serve you from the communities’ input. However it may be, both CachyOS and Solus are definitely better in that regard. Though, crucially, if the community strictly kept to discussing the original three distros and didn’t go out of their way to venture into unexplored waters, then you wouldn’t have arrived where you are right now.
Anyhow, all of the above could as well be disregarded the very moment you (hypothetically) state that your idea of customization is limited to the avenues KDE Plasma offers. Because, the original three are perfectly suited for that. So, your ideas on what tweaking/tinkering/customization entails is fundamentally linked to the distro that’s most fit for the job.
And thus, I would distill the essence of the matter to be a clear idea on what kind of balance between “stability” and “customization” is envisioned as desirable by you. And, while at it, proper delineations of what is and isn’t understood as stability and customization. Is the requirement of stability only satisfied if you can easily rollback to a proper working state? Or, is borking on a random update simply unforgivable? On the other hand, do you really want to compile your own kernel and install it? Or were you merely interested in KDE’s knobs? Etc. etc.
Not necessarily, answering “Or…, like could you perhaps be more clear on what it is you’d like to tinker/tweak/customize in the first place?” would probably have been sufficient.
There’s so much we could go over in the paragraph the above text is found, but I’ll instead limit myself to just the above text. I find myself in a conundrum when you present that the above was implied and that (somehow) you came to consider Bazzite. While Bazzite is a lot more customizable than people give it credit for, I would not describe any part of the experience as “cracking it open”. So, when met with an oxymoron as such, I literally have to ask for a clarification.
You’ve stated somewhere that you “Love the idea of rolling releases”. So, if Solus passes as a rolling release distro [2], but has less uptodate packages than Fedora’s previous release[3]. Then, what is it intrinsically that makes it favorable as a rolling release? And I haven’t even delved into why Fedora’s release cadence is referred to as semi-rolling or how the latest updates to packages like GNOME arrive earlier in Fedora compared to even Arch. Btw, this is not meant as one big advertisement for Fedora. Instead, I want to point out the many many nuances that exist within the Linux landscape.
I agree that CachyOS is one of the better fits. And if you’re not interested to check out Arch, EndeavourOS or openSUSE Tumbleweed(/Slowroll), then I can’t even think of another rolling release worth considering for you.
I don’t know why this would be preferred over a big team 🤔. Mind helping me understand this?
Btw, to be clear, Solus, as a project, is currently not very healthy. While it could compete with Fedora and openSUSE in the past, the last couple of years haven’t been very kind to it. I’d propose the idea that the departure of its founder (i.e. Ikey Doherty) from the project has left it (relatively) visionless. And the turbulent times that followed made nurturing its community a great challenge. One, I’d argue, they weren’t able to handle gracefully. Regardless, it’s undoubtedly a shell of its former glory. This is also reflected by how relatively bare-bones its repository is. Or how absent it is within the discourse. Hopefully it will be able to bounce back after goodies from Doherty’s latest project (i.e. AerynOS) trinkle down to benefit Solus. But, until then, it would be very irresponsible of me if I didn’t discourage you from daily-driving it…
Garuda is exempted from this through its KDE Lite offering. ↩︎
To be clear, technically, it absolutely does. ↩︎
So I’m not even comparing it to Fedora 42 or Fedora Rawhide (i.e. its rolling release branch). ↩︎