• Maeve@kbin.earth
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    Maybe they are happy. The people I’ve met living that way seem miserable. That’s really all karma is, cause and effect. We either learn or don’t. I really believe that the kingdoms of heaven (and hell) are inside us. That doesn’t necessarily equate to physical reality, eg, every need met can still leave people miserable, people who seemingly struggle manage to find peace, if not happiness, others who match their physical reality, often we slide among points on the spectrum of being.

    I don’t see it as perfectly balanced or absolute equilibrium. I see it as more of a spiral hourglass that flips like the magnetic poles. But that’s a whole other discussion and I need to develop that concept, as I just surprised myself with it. That’s a sleepy thought.

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      I do find that a lot of “bully” type people seem miserable, angry, combatative. That’s likely what drives their lack of empathy though, they don’t care about hurting others because they think in some roundabout way that if everyone is upset then it’s fair. There are a lot of reasons why some people justify the way they live and a lot of them will never willingly change.

      Yes karma is cause and effect but a lot of times the effect won’t happen without human intervention to force it into reality. I would describe that more as social structure or framework. Tomato potato

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        Outside pressures are often the driving forces of evolution, and affect everything engaged in a particular process. Dawkins talked about this, iirc.

        Anyway, observing a thing changes it. There will always be latent effects. Maybe it’s not about individual learning, but collective learning, with a nod to Dawkins.

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          It would be great to think one day society would reward good people more often but we are still crawling to that goal

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              What’s your prediction for our successors? Aliens? AI bots? Apes? What if we are the aliens that succeded the previous race? That could explain why our sun is so damaging to us.

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                I have no idea. We know what the sociopaths are working on singularity. We don’t know the species will survive long enough. Maybe a bug? Maybe an extraterrestrial life form.

                Eta: I recently read an article about nematodes organizing themselves into a superstructure. Idk they can survive rapid climate change or not.

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                  That’s what that interstellar object recently seen flying into our solar system is all about. Maybe it won’t be that bad being the pet of some upper middle class giant cockroach alien family.