I had a job interview a few weeks ago where the lead developer straight-up said that he doesn’t have any tests in the codebase because “it’s just writing your code twice”. I thought he was joking. Unfortunately he was not.
I didn’t end up getting the job, perhaps because I made it clear that I thought he was very wrong. I think I dodged a bullet.
I once had a startup founder tell me that “tests are a lack of confidence.” I later did a security review against their company as part of an acquisition. It did not go well…
I did that once. Went to a completely dysfunctional company. Project management was non existent. There was no planing, no defined goals. The project manager, that never before managed a project, literally told me “I think everybody know what has to be done” when I asked for a first assignment.
I though - well I’ll just hang out there and get paid, but alas there was 2 hours of meetings, shouting, everybody blaming everybody else, non stop phone calls etc. every day. Home office got cancelled because “you developers aren’t productive”. If you do nothing (because nobody told you to do anything) you get shouted at, if you do what they tell you to do (“just make a website, it can’t be that hard, we need to be at the top of the google search results” - “what should i put on the website?” - “we don’t know, but make sure it’s at the top”) they look at the result and blame you because it isn’t what they had in mind when they asked.
Wasn’t free money, had to take a long break for mental health afterwards.
Years later, I still look up their project sometimes. The website is the same as when I left.
I had a job interview a few weeks ago where the lead developer straight-up said that he doesn’t have any tests in the codebase because “it’s just writing your code twice”. I thought he was joking. Unfortunately he was not.
I didn’t end up getting the job, perhaps because I made it clear that I thought he was very wrong. I think I dodged a bullet.
I mean there is arguments against creating test for everything but that definitely isn’t a good one…
If you just get LLMs to write your code then you can write your code zero times
I once had a startup founder tell me that “tests are a lack of confidence.” I later did a security review against their company as part of an acquisition. It did not go well…
I bet you could no show at that job for 6 months before they fired you. It’s free money.
I did that once. Went to a completely dysfunctional company. Project management was non existent. There was no planing, no defined goals. The project manager, that never before managed a project, literally told me “I think everybody know what has to be done” when I asked for a first assignment.
I though - well I’ll just hang out there and get paid, but alas there was 2 hours of meetings, shouting, everybody blaming everybody else, non stop phone calls etc. every day. Home office got cancelled because “you developers aren’t productive”. If you do nothing (because nobody told you to do anything) you get shouted at, if you do what they tell you to do (“just make a website, it can’t be that hard, we need to be at the top of the google search results” - “what should i put on the website?” - “we don’t know, but make sure it’s at the top”) they look at the result and blame you because it isn’t what they had in mind when they asked.
Wasn’t free money, had to take a long break for mental health afterwards.
Years later, I still look up their project sometimes. The website is the same as when I left.
But is it at the top of google search results?
Yeah, if you enter the url into google search.
so they’re… still hiring???