Maybe i did not read everything well enough, but did GrapheneOS provide anything other than just ‘they do this’ and ‘they are not secure’? Are there more sources to prove GrapheneOS is not talking nonsense?
Not that i’m defending e/os or anything, i’m just really curious to read some proper examples of their (for what i’m now calling) claims.
I’ve read only but good things about e/os… until this. Saying this while my Fairphone 6 with Murena will be delivered in about 12 hours…
That actually sounds quite accurate lol. I do like the additional option of having network switches and have sandboxed Google play services, but other than that there’s barely any customisation that other roms do offer. I do miss crDroid some days.
Just flash CalyxOS, it wouldn’t matter which version (e/os or standard Fairphone) you get, so just get the cheaper version (usually the non-Murena version is cheaper)
Unless you are willing to buy a Pixel in order to use GrapheneOS (now with the Pixel device-specific code being closed sourced, probably don’t do that), I think Fairphone is still the best option if the carriers in your country support it. I mean, its the only one I know of besides Pixel that supports re-lockable bootloaders while running an alternate OS, very important for security.
now with the Pixel device-specific code being closed sourced
I have yet to update my Pixel to Android 16 specifically because of this.
Calyx is going to be my next update. I say that a lot, but I’ve been methodically going through all of my apps and making sure everything I use will work on a de-googled ROM. It takes time.
FYI the Pixel codes being closed sourced also affect every custom ROM that runs on pixels, not just Graphene OS. If you are already on Pixel, just keep using GrapheneOS.
Like… your device wont magically become insecure, but as time goes on, there will be firmware level exploits that the GrapheneOS team can’t easily patch because they’ll need to spend time to reverse engineer it.
Well, seeing as my first pick was the Skyline 2, something that runs a very mainline tracker filled android. Murena’s OS is leaps ahead of it for security.
Edit: as far as the choice between the Skyline 2 and the Fairphone 6, both have similar capabilities, and each has a design that is nice for different reasons.
The Skyline 2 doesn’t have as much long term support but is noticeably cheaper.
Far as Murena itself. As an American if I want a Fairphone 6 my choices are spend close to $900 buying an imported one from ebay where I don’t get a warranty and start with a close to vanilla android. Or, I buy from Murena and get a phone with a more secure OS and very importantly, the best smart phone warranty on the US market for $900 + shipping. There isn’t really a contest.
I think that’s a totally fair mindset. I simply started with a rooted LinageOS device where I was in control and ended up here with less control but better security… It’s more stable and simple, but lacking customisation
I recommend reading through this comment chain before buying from Murena…
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114355734916535526
Maybe i did not read everything well enough, but did GrapheneOS provide anything other than just ‘they do this’ and ‘they are not secure’? Are there more sources to prove GrapheneOS is not talking nonsense? Not that i’m defending e/os or anything, i’m just really curious to read some proper examples of their (for what i’m now calling) claims.
I’ve read only but good things about e/os… until this. Saying this while my Fairphone 6 with Murena will be delivered in about 12 hours…
Graphene OS devs tend to sniff their own farts and claim it’s roses.
Unless you have a legitimate need for that kind of locked down security, I wouldn’t worry about any of what they have to say.
That actually sounds quite accurate lol. I do like the additional option of having network switches and have sandboxed Google play services, but other than that there’s barely any customisation that other roms do offer. I do miss crDroid some days.
Yeah that’s what i thought. Can’t wait to try out the FP6 with Murena
GOS says everything is terribly insecure
Yeah I agree that they have very high standards
Are you a political journalist/activkst / anyone else that would be the victim of targeted s(tate-sponsored) attacks? Listen to them.
Are you anyone else? They’re overkill for you.
Just flash CalyxOS, it wouldn’t matter which version (e/os or standard Fairphone) you get, so just get the cheaper version (usually the non-Murena version is cheaper)
Unless you are willing to buy a Pixel in order to use GrapheneOS (now with the Pixel device-specific code being closed sourced, probably don’t do that), I think Fairphone is still the best option if the carriers in your country support it. I mean, its the only one I know of besides Pixel that supports re-lockable bootloaders while running an alternate OS, very important for security.
I have yet to update my Pixel to Android 16 specifically because of this.
Calyx is going to be my next update. I say that a lot, but I’ve been methodically going through all of my apps and making sure everything I use will work on a de-googled ROM. It takes time.
FYI the Pixel codes being closed sourced also affect every custom ROM that runs on pixels, not just Graphene OS. If you are already on Pixel, just keep using GrapheneOS.
Like… your device wont magically become insecure, but as time goes on, there will be firmware level exploits that the GrapheneOS team can’t easily patch because they’ll need to spend time to reverse engineer it.
I…was never using Graphene?
Currently running stock 15 (rooted). 15-based Calyx is my next OS upgrade. Or possibly e/OS (when they get to it).
no proof was provided that day
Well, seeing as my first pick was the Skyline 2, something that runs a very mainline tracker filled android. Murena’s OS is leaps ahead of it for security.
Edit: as far as the choice between the Skyline 2 and the Fairphone 6, both have similar capabilities, and each has a design that is nice for different reasons.
The Skyline 2 doesn’t have as much long term support but is noticeably cheaper.
Far as Murena itself. As an American if I want a Fairphone 6 my choices are spend close to $900 buying an imported one from ebay where I don’t get a warranty and start with a close to vanilla android. Or, I buy from Murena and get a phone with a more secure OS and very importantly, the best smart phone warranty on the US market for $900 + shipping. There isn’t really a contest.
I think that’s a totally fair mindset. I simply started with a rooted LinageOS device where I was in control and ended up here with less control but better security… It’s more stable and simple, but lacking customisation