I love Charger8232’s idea of a Privacy Flag. However, I don’t love the design they proposed. In their post, I explain my disagreements.

As a form of vexillographical discussion, I would like to propose another design as the flag under which we anonymously toil in secret (I wish).

First off, nods to Charger8232’s design - 1400x900 dimensions, and use of EU’s Dark Power Blue (#003399) color. Love it.

Where we differ:

Designs

A shield, representing how we must actively guard our privacy. A lock, obviously, to show we want security with our privacy, and a dove showing that we just want to be left the F alone and peacefully not be subject to a mass surveillance state. We’re not trying to be sketchy or do illegal stuff, we just want to be peacefully left the F alone.

Colors

Again, same use of Dark Power Blue, representing freedom and a nod to the GDPR. White representing peace. Black representing how I don’t want people to see me. Color of field: Redacted.

Extras

Stripes to make it a bit more visually interesting. A lack of EXIF and meta data as the subtle fait accompli.

The color scheme is similar to that of Estonia. While Estonia is a leader in the EU’s digital governance space, this is unintentional. As much as I liked Espresso Macchiato in EuroVision this year, there’s no direct nod to Estonia.

I didn’t want to just say “uh, I don’t like it” and complain without doing something. So here you go.

  • PropaGandalf@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    3 days ago

    Hey, I saw your comment in the other thread. Thank you for your engagement, this really shows that people care about their digital presence. However, in my opinion, your proposal is more related to data security than data privacy. I see how the two are interlinked but I really like the symbol of active resistance, symbolized by the hand, towards the big surveillance apparatus, depicted by the eye for a flag that represents privacy.

    From a practical perspective, the other flag is also a bit simpler, if we replace the high-res hand with a simpler vector drawing.

    I propose something like this:

    • Logh@lemmy.ml
      4·
      2 days ago

      So far I like this version the best. However, someone put up the human rights logo and I think it would do quite well here, since it’s a dove (as requested), but also looks a bit like a hand. Another request was the color black. Maybe make the pupil black? Pretty sure that covers the commitee’s requests.

      Edit: something like this

    • Jiří Král@discuss.tchncs.de
      10·
      3 days ago

      This. It doesn’t make sense for the eye to be minimalistic and the hand to be very detailed. Either they are both detailed or both minimalistic.

    • youmaynotknow@lemmy.ml
      4·
      3 days ago

      I am seriously digging this one. Pretty self-explanatory, spot on in my opinion.

      Do you mind if I use it for my profile Pic?

      • PropaGandalf@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 day ago

        Hey, glad you like it. Anything I do I share with the public. This work is thus licensed under the Unlicense :)

        • youmaynotknow@lemmy.ml
          2·
          19 hours ago

          Thank you so much. I already made it my profile Pic in Signal (Molly)

          Edit: and now Lemmy too.

    • technomad@slrpnk.netEnglish
      4·
      3 days ago

      The simpler hand design in this one is definitely better. I did have one thought that I wanted to pose, however. Would the fingers being together instead of apart make much of a difference? I can almost see this design being symbolic of a ‘high five’ instead of a ‘halt!’

      example:

      • PropaGandalf@lemmy.world
        41·
        3 days ago

        I also thought about this but to me this seems more energetic stop sign. Like this one:

        Maybe I could adjust the fingers a bit though…

      • PropaGandalf@lemmy.world
        1·
        24 hours ago

        I agree. It was just addressing this one feedback, which pointed out the mismatch between the detailed style of the hand and the vector style of the eye. Besides that maybe we should completely overthink the choice of symbols and focus on something positive like other commenters have already mentioned.

    • pineapple@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      3 days ago

      I really like this flag too. It’s nice and simple like other flags, not too much going on.

    • hansolo@lemmy.todayOP
      4·
      3 days ago

      I do like this version better than the other one with the detailed hand. That being said, to your point about data security, it’s more so that we’re sort of splitting a finite set of motifs. Even the icon for this community is a shield and an eye. The eye being the threat, not the community represented by the flag, IMO means minimizing the eye, though I can see how you would feel the “stop” hand in the eye does the same thing. I just don’t agree with that.

      Also, just me personally, the all-blue just seems boring to me. This blue is slightly bluer, so it doesn’t give me the BSOD vibe at least, but this just seem closer to a logo for a data removal subscription service than a flag. Not that mine isn’t exactly far from that either, but still.