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    5 days ago

    All of the evil things happening are only inevitable so long as this manufactured resignation/consent engine continues to function.

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      That’s no machine, it’s human nature. Everybody wants to get rid of their opponents. Everybody thinks “If I can get my hands on this first…”.

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          Technically yes but what is it based on? Human nature. The vast majority has no problem with mass surveillance, just like the vast majority has no problem with climate change. Either people don’t care or they think it will benefit them in some way or they adapt. Humans are very good at adapting. Only a tiny minority is unable to and they can’t influence politics.

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            I’m not sure what the point is. We should just give up? We should not complain about the consent manufacturing machine? Do you really have nothing better to do than actively argue we should just resign to be chess pieces for the powerful?

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                So just doomerism. Frankly, that’s not useful, and all you’re doing is helping the powerful by spreading it.

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                  You’re delusional if you think that this is doomerism. And you’re actually proving my point. Just like I can’t influence you, you can’t influence anyone else either. The difference between us is that I’m aware of it while you aren’t.

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                    More like you’re peddling pseudointellectual slop. Drawing a conclusion from a single conversation that a point is being proven is silly, for one thing.

                    But you also have refused to admit you’re making a point even when prompted directly. The logical conclusion of saying “nothing will change the outcome” is “don’t try”. And of course we aren’t changing each others minds in this short conversation. I have deep seated beliefs that the common people can effect change, if only enough of them could wake up, and that part of the puzzle is the manufactured consent framework, as I mentioned - and you denied - then walked back partially with some drivel about human nature.

                    Meanwhile you don’t seem to stand for anything, except maybe “trying is pointless”. Everyone knows positive change is an uphill battle. You’re not telling anyone anything new.