since kids aren’t usually allowed to train with guns… were they all training with their parents before? or is it not that hard, so can any person with no expirience technically just pick up a gun and start shooting people?

(asking not 4 myself obvs, just out of curiosity)

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    I went to a rural school, and everyone had a “hunters education” class in like 7th grade. We never touched a gun but we could legally go hunting with a gun after.

    That’s crazy. I had no idea anyone had a class like that. We’re basically training kids to be school shooters… at school?

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        No, I don’t expect parents who are ignorant about guns to teach their kids safety. We shouldn’t have to, but that’s where we’re at.

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      Hunter’s ed is basically the opposite of what you stated. It’s not part of the state curriculum. It’s similar to drivers ed courses for people to be able to get a learners permit before they turn 18. Similarly below a certain ages, most states require completion of a hunter’s education course to be able to purchase a hunting license and legally hunt.

      The courses go over topics like property rights, how to carry a weapon making sure it’s not pointing at anyone, what high vis clothing is required, always knowing what is behind an animal before even aiming, rules about how a weapon must be unloaded when in a vehicle, and they strongly urge keeping an interference lock in the action of any firearm in storage.

      Hunter’s ed doesn’t teach kids how to shoot, they teach kids how to not be idiots when hunting.

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        The person I replied to specifically said it was part of the 7th grade curriculum. Classes like that existing is not surprising, but it being part of middle school curriculum is very surprising to me.

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          A large amount of Americans that grew up with firearms in the home learned to shoot at the ages of 5 to 7. The reason those ages are mentioned is because that’s the time that an average human is able to hold a pistol unattended and play with it if they don’t understand the danger. I never wanted to play with guns because I knew what they were and how they worked my entire life. Most of that training will simply be that if you find a firearm unattended, you are supposed to find an adult to attend that firearm. Explaining the dangers of firearms and that anything pointed at by a firearm will be destroyed. Explaining only goes so far. Seeing on the other hand, the power and destruction that can be wrought leaves a much more lasting impression. The main purpose of all of this is because children educated purely through media have many false ideas about firearms and weapons and damage that they can cause.

          Media glorifies guns and gun use and violence. In media people get shot all the time and take no real damage for it. It is important to impress upon children that have easy access to firearms that they are tools and weapons and not toys.

          Tldr Children are taught about guns for the same reason kids are taught sex education.

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      Sounds like an elective class. My ex-wife’s niece was in an after-school shotgun club. I gather it was more target practice than hunting.

      I’m of the opinion that familiarity with actually shooting is more of a deterrent to the school shooter mentality than fetishizing guns. I’m basing that mostly on the idea that these school shooters can’t seem to handle a weapon, given that kills are the goal.

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      As they said, you really dont need to know much to operate a semi automatic weapon. Everything you need to know is public knowledge that can be found on wikipedia, youtube, etc.

      You dont need to be a very good shot if you shoot at 5m distance…